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Champion Hurdle 2020

Eggs said:
....Darasso an intriguing entry for the December Hurdle at Leopardstown. I mentioned it’s versatility but I have no idea of its target. There can’t be many that are in the betting for the Champion Hurdle and Gold Cup!!
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He should get beat then go for the Ryanair. 2 1/2 is deffinately his trip imo. But I can see why they've supplemented him.

He is no champion hurdler. But he may look like one in disguise due to the opposition.

The problem is, I don't know how good the front of the market is in the hurdle race at Christmas. Klassical dream's achieved nothing as of yet this year, and not as much as it looked last.
supasundae always needs the run. Coeur sublime ran in a Mickey mouse race that makes him look good, but he's no world beater. Sharjah iv not a clue if he'll get his ground, id probably chance him if hes a price and hope for the best.
 
Here’s one for you lads..

Regardless of their current prices, whos the one horse you’d want to have backed at this time? Most likely winner in your opinion at this stage effectively..
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Here’s one for you lads..

Regardless of their current prices, whos the one horse you’d want to have backed at this time? Most likely winner in your opinion at this stage effectively..
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Pointless asking me because I have sadly backed virtually all of them in this at their biggest prices. Can't envisage not having the winner. If I do then I am completely useless.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Here’s one for you lads..

Regardless of their current prices, whos the one horse you’d want to have backed at this time? Most likely winner in your opinion at this stage effectively..
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Erm, Saldier probably because he'd got the best form... but it's a flaky reason
 
Kevloaf said:
Erm, Saldier probably because he'd got the best form... but it's a flaky reason
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That’s why I asked really. Can anyone have any confidence that they’ve found the winner here? I’m on Klassical Dream and Saldier but I have little faith at all.

I’d vote Saldier too for what it’s worth.

For me, the fact that there are people that genuinely rate Coeur Sublime in their top three for this atm shows just how depleted this race has become. Honeysuckle would absolutely destroy them if she ran. But she won’t.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Here’s one for you lads..

Regardless of their current prices, whos the one horse you’d want to have backed at this time? Most likely winner in your opinion at this stage effectively..
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Slightly different answer but...

I'd lay off some quite hefty bets on klassical dream if I could be bothered to mess around on the exchange and do so.

Obviously done the same sort of money on BD. So effectively that would leave me even. And cover the losses.

I'd have already laid off saldier completely. Or cashed for profit if id have bet with 365. No interest in the piss poor cashout value with PP. So have left to run (hopefully does) but I dont rate him.


The only bet I'd keep is
supasundae EW. @40s
Sharjah EW @33s

And in answer to your actual question, I'd go all in Win only with my remaining champion hurdle budget on fusil raffles. @ around 25s that he was at the start of the season.

Then leave the race completely alone. With them 3.
 
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If someone gave me a grand now and said stick it on the Churdle winner I'd go Saldier.
 
Thomas Darby wins the CH with KD second.

Tiger Roll 3rd.
Presenting Percy 4th
 
Lobos said:
If someone gave me a grand now and said stick it on the Churdle winner I'd go Saldier.
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Your given a free grand bet and you land on a short priced horse that’s had a set back and might not even make Cheltenham.
 
charlie said:
Your given a free grand bet and you land on a short priced horse that’s had a set back and might not even make Cheltenham.
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Yep, pretty much sums me up I know.
 
I have got the following for the Champion Hurdle, in the search for improvers to take over from the old guard.

Fusil Raffles 56/1 & 22/1
Backed Fusil first on the day of his Punchestown win, on the basis that he was the most impressive juvenile in spite of separate hold-ups before each of his two graded wins.
He has been my preferred choice since the start of May, but as can be seen by the bets below, I’ve wanted to cover more bases.

Klassical Dream 8/1
His Supreme win was impressive, so went in before Espoir D passed away as a back up with a different form strand and Festival form.
I really wasn’t taken by his seasonal debut, now have doubts about his jumping and ability to improve beyond his 160 rating much more.


Couer Sublime 25/1, 20/1
Took him onto the roster after visually impressive seasonal debut, and back catalogue of good course run in the Triumph, in the hope of improvement. We find out next week if there is any.

Saldier 8/1
Backed in the aftermath of his seasonal debut win, but the lack of news from Willies stable prior to not being declared at Christmas sounded loud alarm bells that he isn’t doing well and they didn’t want to let anyone know.

Not backing out of any at the moment, but could cashout Couer Sublime if he bombs next week.

Still think Fusil could be ‘the one’, that feeling could be harshly tested at Kempton next week, although he looked very impressive at the track when winning, despite a huge cut on his leg, in February.
 
Fusil will need to step up on his debut run to justify his price now.

Different story for you at those prices but even though he's clearly in the mix I can't get on board at single figures.


Even if he wins it I don't think I'll be able to regret not backing him.
 
Kevloaf said:
Fusil will need to step up on his debut run to justify his price now.

Different story for you at those prices but even though he's clearly in the mix I can't get on board at single figures.


Even if he wins it I don't think I'll be able to regret not backing him.
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I know what you mean Kev, there’s always those contracted priced ones every year, that you can’t/won’t back as the price has gone.

Thankfully we also all have some at big odds that we took before the price dropped, and we cling to those hopes like Gollum and his ‘precious’, defending them from any thoughts that they aren’t made of gold. :)
 
Given nobody is putting a dominant impressive display to prove they are a potential champion this really is so open. It may not be the classiest renewal in quality but it could prove one of the best races with very similar rated horses fighting it out.

Are we missing one btw in Silver Streak? 3rd by a neck to melon in ground far from his favoured, same result on his return in heavy going. Should the ground come up good to soft on the opening day surely he could run a massive race again and feature? Given most of the market is made up of youngsters and novices with something to prove. He’s still only 6 going on 7 may not be huge improvement to come but may have a little if he gets his ground.

If they all turn up fit and proven well I’d side with Saldier.
 
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what do we think of cornerstone lsd? completely ignored on the exchanges 250-1. rated 157 which is fair considering he beat silver streak fair and square and had BD in trouble 3 out, trainer states hes going for the champ hd trial at Haydock where hes sure to get his soft ground then if he wins, which i cant see anything to beat him , is coming here. Only 5yo improving fast and 157 puts him bang there in an open season. Soft ground a must though due to his action, very rounded. its the best 250-1shot ive seen in a while, plenty to of numbers to sell closer to the day if thats your bag. Maybe the bd injury took peoples eyes of what was a very good run by cornerstone boy.
 
I'm not backing any more...I'm not backing any more...I'm not backing any more...
 
Birds Nest said:
what do we think of cornerstone lsd? completely ignored on the exchanges 250-1. rated 157 which is fair considering he beat silver streak fair and square and had BD in trouble 3 out, trainer states hes going for the champ hd trial at Haydock where hes sure to get his soft ground then if he wins, which i cant see anything to beat him , is coming here. Only 5yo improving fast and 157 puts him bang there in an open season. Soft ground a must though due to his action, very rounded. its the best 250-1shot ive seen in a while, plenty to of numbers to sell closer to the day if thats your bag. Maybe the bd injury took peoples eyes of what was a very good run by cornerstone boy.
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That’s a fair call for a longy at those odds, don’t need to lose much at all to find out.
 
Birds Nest said:
what do we think of cornerstone lsd? completely ignored on the exchanges 250-1. rated 157 which is fair considering he beat silver streak fair and square and had BD in trouble 3 out, trainer states hes going for the champ hd trial at Haydock where hes sure to get his soft ground then if he wins, which i cant see anything to beat him , is coming here. Only 5yo improving fast and 157 puts him bang there in an open season. Soft ground a must though due to his action, very rounded. its the best 250-1shot ive seen in a while, plenty to of numbers to sell closer to the day if thats your bag. Maybe the bd injury took peoples eyes of what was a very good run by cornerstone boy.
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:encouragement: Well somebody agreed because the best available is 40s!


Superb effort.
 
Oli Bell having serious discussion on ITV about Not so Sleepy's chances in the champion hurdle ?

Think Francesca's moved his brain to his balls.
 
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