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Champion Hurdle 2020

Now that buveur d’air is gone I just see klassical dream bombing off in front and it will be a catch me if u can just like the supreme thought Townsend was fearfully of collision with saldier at the last hurdle after bad approach
 
Looking forward to the re run at Christmas see if the tables are turned
 
Arkle said:
Looking forward to the re run at Christmas see if the tables are turned
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You might have to wait, Saldier not entered.
It's been a hot topic on here.

Seems as though he hasn't been quite right so willie's not bothered entering him and having the temptation to rush him to run at xmas, so will likely see in the new year.

Others had a fair few conspiracy theories though.
I'd say it was quite simple.
 
Arkle said:
Now that buveur d’air is gone I just see klassical dream bombing off in front and it will be a catch me if u can just like the supreme thought Townsend was fearfully of collision with saldier at the last hurdle after bad approach
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Is that confirmed ,that B,d'air is gone ??. Another Empthasising A/p bet down ...Empthasise !!
 
BigChaang said:
Is that confirmed ,that B,d'air is gone ??. Another Empthasising A/p bet down ...Empthasise !!
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Yes, unless he can run on 3 legs ! Sad but I think that is the last we'll see of him now.
 
The last time this race was torn apart through injuries and lack of talent or form.

Buvuer D'air reverted and after one easy prep race, went on to win the race easily.

Apologies if someone's mentioned it already (I know I did a few weeks back even before the recent events).
But surely the connections of City Island will have had the odd glance at each other.

The negatives are that they appear to be set on him needing a trip.
But class is class and it didn't stop Faugheen.

The Ballymore winner would normally be one of the first on the list for this race. And no matter what his form was in Punchestown. His win at the festival was very impressive, against horses that have not really disappointed much in their races since.

It would actually be easier for him to do it than Buvuer as he's not even been out yet.

33-1 PP is tempting.
No one going big on exchanges or I would have.
 
All trainers are having a peek at the CH contenders. Joseph said Fakir D will probably go Arkle or JLT!!! Probably, what else is there??:)
 
quevega said:
The last time this race was torn apart through injuries and lack of talent or form.

Buvuer D'air reverted and after one easy prep race, went on to win the race easily.

Apologies if someone's mentioned it already (I know I did a few weeks back even before the recent events).
But surely the connections of City Island will have had the odd glance at each other.

The negatives are that they appear to be set on him needing a trip.
But class is class and it didn't stop Faugheen.

The Ballymore winner would normally be one of the first on the list for this race. And no matter what his form was in Punchestown. His win at the festival was very impressive, against horses that have not really disappointed much in their races since.

It would actually be easier for him to do it than Buvuer as he's not even been out yet.

33-1 PP is tempting.
No one going big on exchanges or I would have.
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I thought the same yesterday
 
Kevloaf said:
No, it is not confirmed he's out
"Out for some time".



It's on his unibet blog if you have a keyboard and google.

Or you can click this link if you have a mouse or sausage finger.


https://www.unibet.co.uk/blog/horse...-be-out-for-some-time-after-surgery-1.1321737
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Many Thank's for the link Kev , I'd like to think I'm not a complete " Imbecile ".
Obviously seen the headlines , but the phrase " gone " made me think it had been confirmed .
Only seen R.T.V news so will look at unibet thing . ... and Yes Sausage fingers :highly_amused:
 
It was confusing because the headlines said 'Saldier setback' but what Mullins actually said was he wasn't 100% pleased with him post race. Open to interpretation of course, but one is definitely not the other in my book and it was the best 'bad news' I could have hoped for.
 
charlie said:
It was confusing because the headlines said 'Saldier setback' but what Mullins actually said was he wasn't 100% pleased with him post race. Open to interpretation of course, but one is definitely not the other in my book and it was the best 'bad news' I could have hoped for.
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Yeah as long as that's actually the full truth of the issue. I'd say if he wan't 100% pleased with him + still expects him to be out in the NY, he'd have thrown an entry at Xmas anyway. Hardly that much of a difference timing wise. Knowing the trainer's previous.
 
jack1092 said:
Yeah as long as that's actually the full truth of the issue. I'd say if he wan't 100% pleased with him + still expects him to be out in the NY, he'd have thrown an entry at Xmas anyway. Hardly that much of a difference timing wise. Knowing the trainer's previous.
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I disagree. Willie knows the horse runs well fresh, so why risk it - could just preserve and go straight to Cheltenham.

If he did want to get another run into Saldier, the New Year doesn’t have to mean the first week of January either, could be the end of jan/beginning of February. So 5-6 weeks is a considerable amount of time difference
 
Anay Turge said:
I disagree. Willie knows the horse runs well fresh, so why risk it - could just preserve and go straight to Cheltenham.

If he did want to get another run into Saldier, the New Year doesn’t have to mean the first week of January either, could be the end of jan/beginning of February. So 5-6 weeks is a considerable amount of time difference
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This is WPM and entries, your view is a sound one and one i'd agree with- i'm trying to read between the lines.
 
Wont mention this again coz i ranted a little too much yesterday, but Ill be shocked if he runs at Chelt for the reasons stated yesterday and on this page by others.
 
Yeah fair one mate. Perhaps I’m looking at it the other way, when I’m looking for my positives that help me think my best Antepost position to not be going down the pan. I think it’s good we’ve had some information quickly, unlike other instances. I mean last year with Cilaos Emery we were told he’d likely miss the festival and true enough he did, appreciate we are earlier in the season, but WPM hasn’t got close to suggesting that for Saldier yet. We’ll see
 
Kevloaf said:
No, it is not confirmed he's out
"Out for some time".



It's on his unibet blog if you have a keyboard and google.

Or you can click this link if you have a mouse or sausage finger.


https://www.unibet.co.uk/blog/horse...-be-out-for-some-time-after-surgery-1.1321737
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Google tells me

At the toe, it takes between nine and 12 months for hoof horn to grow down from the coronet to the ground surface; at the quarters, six to eight months; and at the shorter heels, four to five months.1 Feb 2002

no chance imo.
 
Anay Turge said:
Yeah fair one mate. Perhaps I’m looking at it the other way, when I’m looking for my positives that help me think my best Antepost position to not be going down the pan. I think it’s good we’ve had some information quickly, unlike other instances. I mean last year with Cilaos Emery we were told he’d likely miss the festival and true enough he did, appreciate we are earlier in the season, but WPM hasn’t got close to suggesting that for Saldier yet. We’ll see
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True, and it's very possible he's just not pleasing, but i'd assume there has to be something more than him just not pleasing in his work since to rule him out to at least the NY.

Guessing here, but i think whatever it is has him on the sidelines for the near future, but they hope he can make it back for Spring.
 
jack1092 said:
True, and it's very possible he's just not pleasing, but i'd assume there has to be something more than him just not pleasing in his work since to rule him out to at least the NY.

Guessing here, but i think whatever it is has him on the sidelines for the near future, but they hope he can make it back for Spring.
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Agree with this, purely on the basis of what Mullins does with his entries. Something must have come to light with Saldier, hence the no entries. Would be very odd to not run a horse because he wasn’t pleasing, as some have said what if it changed in the next couple of weeks and was working well, no entries.

Happy we have had at least some news on him but I’m of the view he has had a small set back but nothing that will rule him out the festival. Of course time will tell.
 
Saldiers next likely target would be the Irish CH on 1st Feb. Entries likely early Jan so you should have a clearer picture then. Wouldn't be surprised myself if they went straight to Cheltenham
 
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