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Champion Hurdle 2020

Sharjah
6g Doctor Dino - Saaryeh
Mrs S Ricci
1311B-4
RPR 168h OR 163h
He had a busy time of it last season and did very well, winning the Galway Hurdle and a couple of Grade 1s – the Morgiana at Punchestown and the Ryanair at Leopardstown's Christmas meeting. I was a bit disappointed with him in the Morgiana on Saturday when he was having his first start since being brought down at the third in the Champion Hurdle. But it's early days and hopefully we'll see the real Sharjah as the season goes on. We'll find a target for him over Christmas.
 
Just thinking aloud; could Gordy “Roll the big dice” and come here with Envoi Allen?
 
jono said:
Wow. Agree with the proximity of Petit Mouchoir being a question mark there.
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... and that really puts me off these lot

I think we're heading into a repeat of 2016, where the likes of BVD are starting to aged a little and become more vulnerable whilst we are lacking a superstar from the supreme and neptune

Could this be a renewal where a mare takes this, or something from our field - i.e. a "Labaik" for instance

I backed Honeysuckle at 50's a few months back as I really like her, but she's likely to be short of class for this and will go in the mares.
Just wondering whether any of Mullin's mares will come here. Benie looks like she wants 3 now... but not too dis-similar to Annie Power!
I like Stormy Island, but once again, she'll be best in the mares.

Could Benie be the one here?
With Salderand Sharjah, its hard to see Ricci running Benie here, whilst Mullins will also have KD...

I really see this being a odd year, with many being backed into single figures now being beaten by something. But what?! No idea! lol
 
opatcho said:
... and that really puts me off these lot

I think we're heading into a repeat of 2016, where the likes of BVD are starting to aged a little and become more vulnerable whilst we are lacking a superstar from the supreme and neptune

Could this be a renewal where a mare takes this, or something from our field - i.e. a "Labaik" for instance

I backed Honeysuckle at 50's a few months back as I really like her, but she's likely to be short of class for this and will go in the mares.
Just wondering whether any of Mullin's mares will come here. Benie looks like she wants 3 now... but not too dis-similar to Annie Power!
I like Stormy Island, but once again, she'll be best in the mares.

Could Benie be the one here?
With Salderand Sharjah, its hard to see Ricci running Benie here, whilst Mullins will also have KD...

I really see this being a odd year, with many being backed into single figures now being beaten by something. But what?! No idea! lol
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Petit mouchoir went a pace to suit himself, he stayed on again at the end. Where at a real champion hurdle gallop you'd expect him to drop out of it and weaken.

Saldier did well, sharjah and KD will be much more at home of an end to end gallop. Theres nothing to say that saldier wouldnt be either, but would just put more pressure on his jumping at the business end. They will all improve for the run,
 
Scooby91 said:
Petit mouchoir went a pace to suit himself, he stayed on again at the end. Where at a real champion hurdle gallop you'd expect him to drop out of it and weaken.

Saldier did well, sharjah and KD will be much more at home of an end to end gallop. Theres nothing to say that saldier wouldnt be either, but would just put more pressure on his jumping at the business end. They will all improve for the run,
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They'd all need to improve
But who am I kidding, the 2 miler hurdle division is dire over here with BVD the only one with proven experience. Irish take this unless Henderson has a monster in Penhouse - whom I can't and wont consider until I've seen him run in open company
 
opatcho said:
They'd all need to improve
But who am I kidding, the 2 miler hurdle division is dire over here with BVD the only one with proven experience. Irish take this unless Henderson has a monster in Penhouse - whom I can't and wont consider until I've seen him run in open company
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I'd be almost certain BVD would have won that at the weekend, and stylishly so. But they obviously wouldnt be anywhere near the condition he'd hope to have them in come march.
 
Scooby91 said:
I'd be almost certain BVD would have won that at the weekend, and stylishly so. But they obviously wouldnt be anywhere near the condition he'd hope to have them in come march.
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I agree, I was on BVD that day and had him to beat both Apples Jade and Laurina, so was pretty confident that he'd that his 3 title. What-if's.... though :(

Just watched Saldier's win from over the weekend, and you know what. My initial reaction and following thoughts where unnecessary negative

This season, I've been keen to horses who have ran in open graded company, and winning first time out. Saldier not only ran well, but he beat a few established horses there.

He ran extremely well, and thought he jumped fairly good actually. Will be interesting to see how much he'll improve given he was raced before coming over to Ireland.

If he takes another grade 1 race over in Ireland and performs as well, if not better, then.... I'm going to have to take Saldier very seriously

Will be interesting to watch jockey bookings

Anything else think KD should have went chasing?
 
Saldier has to be given the most credit, and his last two jumps (especially the second, last were reminiscent of the fly) who also used to win his Irish grade ones in similar fashion.
The only thing (as mentioned earlier today) is how he'll go at Cheltenham when they go champion hurdle pace.
 
Klassical Dream looks a little loopy to me. He was weird at cheltenham too and the super low head carriage for the first half mile is a sign of an idiot.
Which is why his win in the supreme was so impressive at the track in a good time, and he behaved ok at Punchestown after.
Interesting if they put any head gear on, as willie don't tend to bother with it most of the time.
 
Borisfox said:
Somewhat biased in my opinion (is that IMHO? - still trying to learn all the correct abbreviations so please bare with me)
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IMHO is "in my humble opinion"
 
No-one who uses that is remotely humble, IMO.
 
Just watching all the weekends action now - my pennies on the Morgiana would be:

Klassical Dream - wasn't as bad as I thought it would be after reading/hearing about the race. It's not hard to envisage him reversing the form later in the season although he's no price at all as a bet now. He was arguably THE worst ante post fav at circa 3/1, and 6/1 is shorter than he should probably be on what we've just seen. I have him in a few yankee's at 6/1 from April time and I wouldn't add him now in any hurry at the same price.

Saldier - Comes out with the most credit (obviously) although having him at 35/1 and seeing him at 6/1 co fav may well cloud my judgement on him going forward. Trying to ignore that, I personally don't think he was that impressive, and when Buveur D'air is 6/1 and Saldier is 6/1 (which they are tonight) then I'd have no hesitation at all backing BVD instead of him. (Doesn't mean I don't think he can win, just BVD sets the standard, Saldier has no form better than BVD's yet). Good spot to be in though regardless.

Sharjah - Did add him before the race for the CH (ante post) which I didn't get chance/couldn't be bothered:highly_amused: to post on here. I would have hoped for better but he's still a dual grade 1 winner so I'll give him another chance before crying about it being a bad bet. I was in two minds, I'll keep an open mind and see how he does over Christmas.

Petit Mouchoir - Hardly mentioned on here (just seen his name means "pretty white lies" I like that. Anyway, he is only quoted with 365 and is 40/1 - Placed in an Arkle (just), walloped in a Stayers hurdle... I was trying to find an angle for him being a decent e/w price at 40/1 but I can't make one. The best I had was his "NOVEMBER" record is 13F2 as a means of saying maybe how close is was in the Morgiana doesn't bring the form down...but that's a nonsense theory and doesn't hold up...so ultimately... brings the race down.
 
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I thought Petit Mouchoir meant 'little handkerchief'. I don't think he'll take any hand in the CH finish though.

And sorry, that wasn't the only thing I was going to reply with but wanted clarification, as I am definitely not French!

I think there will be more to come from Klassical Dream on the day, but personally I would prefer Saldier to KD winning just for return levels.

It's quite a nicely priced market now I feel.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I thought Petit Mouchoir meant 'little handkerchief'. I don't think he'll take any hand in the CH finish though.

And sorry, that wasn't the only thing I was going to reply with but wanted clarification, as I am definitely not French!

I think there will be more to come from Klassical Dream on the day, but personally I would prefer Saldier to KD winning just for return levels.

It's quite a nicely priced market now I feel.
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I compared Saldier to Buveur D'air didn't I, at 6/1 - I'd want BVD.

...and I don't know, that';s what google came up with when I hit search before adding "horse" at the end for Petit Mouchoir :highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
I compared Saldier to Buveur D'air didn't I, at 6/1 - I'd want BVD.

...and I don't know, that';s what google came up with when I hit search before adding "horse" at the end for Petit Mouchoir :highly_amused:
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Yeah, sorry, I was just rambling, despite quoting for whole post for some reason!
 
Plenty of money for Coeur Sublime this morning. Cut from 25's at 8am to 18's by 9.30.
 
Lobos said:
Plenty of money for Coeur Sublime this morning. Cut from 25's at 8am to 18's by 9.30.
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Good to see! Any particular reason? Write up, article or anything? I took him after his decent win at WKD hurdle at down royal. Decent ew punt!
 
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