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Champion Hurdle 2019

Champion Hurdle 2019

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Istabraq said:
Do you not think that if AJ goes champion hurdle, as we now suspect, this increases the chance even more of Laurina going Mares ?
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I think theres more chance AJ going mares than laurina. "Suddenly coming in season" Willies got the mares well covered and couldn't care less i expect. Ruby will want a horse in better form than melon. And the owner without question will want to take on buveur dair. He diddnt want to sell BD but had no choice, so whatever his mares chances i very much expect he's been dreaming of his shot at redemption.

Fully expect them both to go CH now.

Hope so as iv wrote this race off as one to watch and enjoy. I will be going in with just an ew chance on sharjah. And gone nuts on the mares. Hoping for a win and a place.
 
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Cant see past AJ now.....BD would need a best ever to get close with the allowance....even tho she does goes a tad right

SUPER happy to hear, given had 30-1 on exchanges a while back and have 14-1 Lauina.....race of the festival potentially with AJ winning
 
Apples Jade going here is great news for racing and makes for a far more exciting Champion Hurdle. It also has the added benefit of not affecting my ante post positions so I am happy with the decision.

That being said, I don't think Apples Jade will beat BVD. It was impossible not be very impressed by her performance in the Irish Champion Hurdle, but BVD will be a different ball game to what she left in behind on Saturday. The media are riding the Apples Jade wave now we know she goes here, and from a betting perspective that makes this very interesting. The story and hype surrounding Apple’s Jade is unquestionably more interesting than BVD who is taking up what can only be described as racecourse gallops for 30 grand. There’s loads of layers to the Apples Jade story. Whether or not Apples Jade should go here has been a hot topic and commanded quite a lot of TV time. She has been brilliant this season after underperforming last season. She is now with Gordon having previously been with Willie, which adds an extra dimension given how competitive they both are at Cheltenham. Everyone loves a mare and after Annie Powers win in 2016 AJ will no doubt capture the hearts of the nation (that nation being Ireland but also English punters). As a story, Apples Jade blows BVD out the water.

Take all of that away and look at what both have achieved and their credentials for a champion hurdle. Apples Jade may be a better story and BVD is definitely less exciting, but as a dual champion hurdle winner BVD is significantly more experienced than Apples Jade, who is not without her kinks. She still jumps out to her right and could hardly be described as bombproof at Cheltenham.

Apples Jade will be absolutely smashed up which is why I am not backing BVD now. The bet I have done is Melon EW @ 16/1. The market told us Melon wouldn't be winning on the weekend but he was unimpressive last year before giving BVD a race. I am glad he has gone out to 16/1 NRNB which is exactly what I am hoping for.
 
Istabraq said:
Do you not think that if AJ goes champion hurdle, as we now suspect, this increases the chance even more of Laurina going Mares ?
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As much as it would sort've make sense, Melon hasn't quite done it this year (still has a good chance of running better), so for me Mullin's will need want be happy enough putting Laurina in considering he's got a few already for the mares.
 
Irish handicapper rated Apples Jade 165, seems a little under for me.
Left Supasundae on 163, and dropped Melon a 1lb to 163.
Like to know what his thinking is behind that.
16 lengths going away getting 7lb.

either way, puts her officially same as BD with the 7lb.
 
What's the general consensuses with Apples then ,the only thing that can beat her is if she is in season? i can't bring myself to back her knowing it's a potential guessing game as to whether she is going maintaining these brilliant performances or put in a random sub-par effort :confused:
 
Let's see what the people think... unlikely to be another run for Apple's Jade and Buveur D'air - Laurina one more run - the poll has no end date so people can wait until she runs....

Just a bit of fun though...
 
Robbie power.

Power also singled out Apple’s Jade’s Irish Champion Hurdle performance as highlight from the Dublin Racing Festival, and believes that Gordon Elliott’s mare will now go on to beat Buveur d’Air in the equivalent race at Cheltenham:

“Apple’s Jade was breath-taking. Supasundae ran his race and he was 16 lengths off her and it was another 6 lengths to Melon, who was only beaten a neck by Buveur D’air last year. So going strictly by the form book, Buveur D’air would have no chance of beating Apple’s Jade.”

She was unbelievable, it was very good performance and I think she’s the one to beat in the Champion Hurdle. If she turned up in that form, she’d be unbeatable.


On the stayers
Paisley Park
I thought Paisley Park was very very impressive in winning the Cleeve Hurdle. He’s obviously improved plenty from Ascot. The more strongly-run race suited him and he’s a big player for the Stayers Hurdle. You could see little bits of holes in the form with West Approach finishing second but I thought he couldn’t have done it any easier.




Madness if they still ran supasundae here after that. Can't see it myself.

If he gets his ground he finishes infront of penhill in the stayers imo.
 
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How confident are you that Buveur D’Air can retain his Unibet Champion Hurdle crown against the likes of Apple’s Jade and Laurina?


I showed Buveur D’air a video of Apple’s Jade winning last week and he didn’t look the least bit worried – he said she’s a proper three miler! Laurina is the intriguing one and it will be interesting to see what she does before Cheltenham. Seriously though, they are both big dangers but I wouldn’t swap Buveur for any of them.
 
....Richard Hoiles selecting Call me Lord @ 50-1 nrnb.
 
Kevloaf said:
How confident are you that Buveur D’Air can retain his Unibet Champion Hurdle crown against the likes of Apple’s Jade and Laurina?


I showed Buveur D’air a video of Apple’s Jade winning last week and he didn’t look the least bit worried – he said she’s a proper three miler! Laurina is the intriguing one and it will be interesting to see what she does before Cheltenham. Seriously though, they are both big dangers but I wouldn’t swap Buveur for any of them.
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I'd always worry when a trainer mentions he wouldn't swap his horse, when he's not even been asked.
 
He looked very relieved when he was told Apples Jade would swerve the Champion Hurdle (before Leopardstown).
 
Taking the betting out of it, I'm leaning his [Buveur D'air] way still.

In all the scenarios I play out in my head, she is setting the pace and he's not too far away... she'll lead at the last and he won't be far away...and he'll get alongside.

If he's able to travel up and get to her, I think he'll go past and hold on.

Law of averages has me against Laurina - I won't rule her out but you couldn't fancy her over Apple's Jade over any distance on what we've seen and AJ is setting the standard over both trips.
 
Kevloaf said:
Taking the betting out of it, I'm leaning his [Buveur D'air] way still.

In all the scenarios I play out in my head, she is setting the pace and he's not too far away... she'll lead at the last and he won't be far away...and he'll get alongside.

If he's able to travel up and get to her, I think he'll go past and hold on.

Law of averages has me against Laurina - I won't rule her out but you couldn't fancy her over Apple's Jade over any distance on what we've seen and AJ is setting the standard over both trips.
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How many people are constantly playing out that scenario in their heads?
He’s alongside , he’s level but can he pass?

Imaginations running wild!
If good ground do you not see Sharjah in the mix?
 
Kevloaf said:
Taking the betting out of it, I'm leaning his [Buveur D'air] way still.

In all the scenarios I play out in my head, she is setting the pace and he's not too far away... she'll lead at the last and he won't be far away...and he'll get alongside.

If he's able to travel up and get to her, I think he'll go past and hold on.

Law of averages has me against Laurina - I won't rule her out but you couldn't fancy her over Apple's Jade over any distance on what we've seen and AJ is setting the standard over both trips.
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Taking the betting out id be the same. Imo him and sharjah are the only 2 who have a real change of gear off a strong pace. I could see sharjah running an arctic fire kind of race. Held right up. Let who ever blinks 1st go with Apple's jade and he'll pick up the pieces
 
Kevloaf said:
Taking the betting out of it, I'm leaning his [Buveur D'air] way still.

In all the scenarios I play out in my head, she is setting the pace and he's not too far away... she'll lead at the last and he won't be far away...and he'll get alongside.

If he's able to travel up and get to her, I think he'll go past and hold on.

Law of averages has me against Laurina - I won't rule her out but you couldn't fancy her over Apple's Jade over any distance on what we've seen and AJ is setting the standard over both trips.
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I think AJ will have BD out of his comfort zone early enough.
 
doctorwu said:
I think AJ will have BD out of his comfort zone early enough.
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I don't think we've ever seen a horse take him out of his comfort zone in terms of travelling in to a race...

I don't think Buveur could ever beat Supasundae further than Apple's Jade has, but he's beat Supasundae every time, as he'd just stalk him.
 
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