Champion Hurdle 2018

[ryanh97]

Wrong thread i know Scooby but how do you see UDS/MIN/YORKHILL split up? Which Races?

I think it might become a bit clearer after the Irish Champion Hurdle

 

[Kevloaf]

Min looks to have been cut today for the CH - 8/1 NRNB still so not a huge move... 20s best price where quoted though?

Anyone on here? haha

 

[ryanh97]

Min looks to have been cut today for the CH - 8/1 NRNB still so not a huge move... 20s best price where quoted though?

Anyone on here? haha

Not me haha. You could make a case for him being shorter than 8/1 if he turned up though.

Check your email btw Kev

 

[Toffees]

Min looks to have been cut today for the CH - 8/1 NRNB still so not a huge move... 20s best price where quoted though?

Anyone on here? haha

Min was 40.0 on the exchange 2 days ago anyway, into 17.0 now....
And Yorkhill is in a Point or two over the last 10 days for the Champion Chase and drifting for the Champion Hurdle. Douvan slowly drifting...

Faugheen shows up, 8s is pretty fair on the day, although with the ridiculous over rounds at the festival it'll be shorter!
It is probably worth keeping an eye on all of these markets and the strength of Faugheen in the Irish Champion Hurdle though.

 

[Scooby91]

Min was 40.0 on the exchange 2 days ago anyway, into 17.0 now....
And Yorkhill is in a Point or two over the last 10 days for the Champion Chase and drifting for the Champion Hurdle. Douvan slowly drifting...

Faugheen shows up, 8s is pretty fair on the day, although with the ridiculous over rounds at the festival it'll be shorter!
It is probably worth keeping an eye on all of these markets and the strength of Faugheen in the Irish Champion Hurdle though.

I have min at 240.0. I diddnt realise he'd shortened up that much.

 

[Scooby91]

4pts win faugheen 8/1
2 pts double north hill harvey 7/4 (won) faugheen 6/1 CH.

10 pts win buveur dair 4/1

1pt melon ew 20/1 1/4

Min 240.0 0.2 points

Added yesterday
1pt ew mtoy 25/1 1/5


Prob have a look at yorkhill over Christmas and see what he does in the lexus.
But I wouldn't be worried about faugheen at this stage any more than I would have been last week. You back him knowing it's a possibility he could get injured. But that market tells you nothing other than there's no interest to play him as current prices. As everyone is already on.

Min the market mover.

 

[Hurricane fly]

I don’t ever remember seeing anything about Min reverting back to hurdles.

Min has obviously shortened up a lot but how much has actually been matched on him in the first plce? I can understand somebody backing Yorkhill here as it’s mentioned every interview but nothing when they talk about Min

 

[Toffees]

I have min at 240.0. I diddnt realise he'd shortened up that much.

Very Nice. You're pretty much covered whether Faugheen shows up or not. The way I see it, if Faugheen shows up Min will go Champion Chase with Yorkhill.
You could trade out Min mid race, make a nice profit and hope Melon can do a job

 

[Scooby91]

Very Nice. You're pretty much covered whether Faugheen shows up or not. The way I see it, if Faugheen shows up Min will go Champion Chase with Yorkhill.
You could trade out Min mid race, make a nice profit and hope Melon can do a job

I'd be hoping buveur dair is the one who does the job

 

[Kevloaf]

Min the market mover.

I haven't given Min ANY thought of coming here....

but

If Yorkhill beats him out of sight at Lepo... they already have ample Ryanair horses....

Min did finish ahead of BVD in the Supreme (albeit I wouldn't anticipate that ever happening again) .... MAYBE they'd be tempted?
They always always said Min was like Chapange Fever (thin and French and scopey for fences) so I'd be wary of him being better over hurdles than he is fences... but I suppose it must become a CONSIDERATION for them.

I'd like to have the 240.0 covered but no way I'd get involved at current prices all the same

 

[lukemouaj]

Small snippet in the racing post today from Harry Derham about Cliffs of Dover.

May come out in betfair hurdle or may not, however wherevee he comes out if he were to win impressively, they have entered him in the champion. Surely 66/1 NRNB would not stay the same...

Had a little flutter, not much to loose if he runs well he goes if not hes out. Rather be sitting come the day on a 66/1 shot who may go into 12's than a 1/2 shot in Buveur ��

 

[doctorwu]

Small snippet in the racing post today from Harry Derham about Cliffs of Dover.

May come out in betfair hurdle or may not, however wherevee he comes out if he were to win impressively, they have entered him in the champion. Surely 66/1 NRNB would not stay the same...

Had a little flutter, not much to loose if he runs well he goes if not hes out. Rather be sitting come the day on a 66/1 shot who may go into 12's than a 1/2 shot in Buveur ��

No disrespect but you might as well throw your money down a drain. You can have 100/1 with me

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Not sure anyone will agree with this but having looked at this market again, I've ended up backing another old favourite of mine - Charli Parcs 50/1 ew nrnb (would Buveur D'air). He was given an entry and NJH said he'd have to win the Betfair Hurdle to consider running him. If he won the betfair (a big if) he would be right in the mix to finish in the top 4 in Champion Hurdle. I can only see around 6 likely runners at the moment so there is every chance it's a small field.

1pt ew (1/4 odds) Charli Parcs 50/1 w/o Buveur D'air nrnb

*Also got 1pt ew (1/4 odds) Ch'Tibello 22/1 & 25/1 w/o Buveur D'air nrnb.

 

[doctorwu]

Not sure anyone will agree with this but having looked at this market again, I've ended up backing another old favourite of mine - Charli Parcs 50/1 ew nrnb (would Buveur D'air). He was given an entry and NJH said he'd have to win the Betfair Hurdle to consider running him. If he won the betfair (a big if) he would be right in the mix to finish in the top 4 in Champion Hurdle. I can only see around 6 likely runners at the moment so there is every chance it's a small field.

1pt ew (1/4 odds) Charli Parcs 50/1 w/o Buveur D'air nrnb



*Also got 1pt ew (1/4 odds) Ch'Tibello 22/1 & 25/1 w/o Buveur D'air nrnb.

Bloody hell FM he can't even win a handicap

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

Won't run here unless he wins arguably the biggest handicap hurdle of the season though. Zero risk.....I think

 

[DBUK]

I cant see Min running in the CH. I definitely see him a potent threat in the CC.. always dangerous reading too much into market moves in antepost betting but noted Ladbrokes pushed Altior out to 7/4 earlier in the week. Most firms are odds against. I don't see Douvan turning up and Patrick Mullins quoted as saying we definitely have not seen the best of Min.

I can see Yorkhill going for the CH. I strongly get the impression Willie wants to send him back hurdling and run him in the CH. He has long said this is what he wants to see.. I wouldn't be certain where the pressure is coming from (Ruby is adamant Yorkhill is an easier horse to ride left handed over the bigger obstacles) but it just feels a bit reluctant from Willies point of view, a case of "huff ok if we have to, but if it goes wrong we go my route". I think its telling that they have left an entry in the BHP Insurance Irish Champion Hurdle at Leopardstown. My prediction is, news that Faugheen is out for the season > Yorkhill goes ICH and then CH.

If that doesnt happen, as one of the other members on here eluded too, if Yorkhill turns up in the Coral Dublin Chase head to head with Min, and gives Min a spanking.. Min may well shorten for the CH. But it is entirely possible that Min gives Yorkhill a spanking and shortens in the CC and Yorkhill in the CH.

Its all a bit of a mind fuck

 

[Scooby91]

Had a few quid on defi de seuil for the Irish champion hurdle. At 14/1. The logical target now taken out the Betfair hurdle. Small field with a few to be taken out the betting. I genuinely believe faugheen will win. But there is a chance he dosent go or can bomb again. Despite not being entitled to say so on previous form I think defi could just about have the beating of the lkkes of Mick jazz and would have a fair chance of picking up the pieces. If faugheen dosent show up.

But to do that he has to run ofcourse

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Had a few quid on defi de seuil for the Irish champion hurdle. At 14/1. The logical target now taken out the Betfair hurdle. Small field with a few to be taken out the betting. I genuinely believe faugheen will win. But there is a chance he dosent go or can bomb again. Despite not being entitled to say so on previous form I think defi could just about have the beating of the lkkes of Mick jazz and would have a fair chance of picking up the pieces. If faugheen dosent show up.

But to do that he has to run ofcourse

I was just this morning looking at DDS as a back to lay option for this race, as I don't think Yorkhill or MTOY will turn up, meaning DDS's price will disappear.

 

[Scooby91]

I was just this morning looking at DDS as a back to lay option for this race, as I don't think Yorkhill or MTOY will turn up, meaning DDS's price will disappear.

I see it as.

Supasundae
Faugheen
Melon
Mick jazz
Bapaume
Defi de seuil
Chtibello (poss)

I wouldn't run faugheen personally I'd send him straight to the CH. But he is a likely runner. Although can change very quickly

 

[Faugheen_Machine]

I see it as.

Supasundae
Faugheen
Melon
Mick jazz
Bapaume
Defi de seuil
Chtibello (poss)

I wouldn't run faugheen personally I'd send him straight to the CH. But he is a likely runner. Although can change very quickly

Ch'Tibello is going for the Kingwell hurdle so very unlikely to turn up in Ireland next weekend.