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Breeder’s Cup

Just been reading some stuff on the ATR breeders cup site.

Never heard of Glenn Toner before but his article with antepost selections is painful reading, every other sentence is a fucking after time. No need whatsoever, just shoe horning them in all over the place. :highly_amused: Steady on Glenn.:teapot:
 
HoldenTheReins said:
I've got him and the Japanese horse in this only. Think they both have a good chance. Draw is shit for AK though.
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Ushba needs a super strong pace and thankfully that idiot juan hernandez isn't on AK
 
Zachx02 said:
Ushba needs a super strong pace and thankfully that idiot juan hernandez isn't on AK
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The draw is so key he's fluffed a few multis and made some better.

Tamara is the banker of the meeting for me.

Mawj and Tiber winning would be a lovely result also.
 
I remember Mark Johnson calling a fair few winners in BC last year so be keeping an eye out for his fancies pre race
 
White Abario for me in the Classic, even though it’s a little suspicious that Rick Dutrow has improved him so much… his Whitney run is the best form on offer now imo
 
The Classic this year looks the polar opposite to last year's. A very open race which could well go down to the wire.
 
Here my bets for the Friday night Breeders Cup

Cherry Blossom 9/1 Juvenile Turf Sprint
She Feels Pretty 6/1 Juvenile Fillies Turf
Prince Of Monaco 4/1 Juvenile
Endlessly 8/1 Juvenile Turf

Love the breeders cup. Just enjoy the meeting for what it is. :courage:
 
I fancy JUST F Y I to upset the favourite TAMARA in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Dirt. Justify (American Triple Crown winner) looks like the next superstar sire producing some seriously talented 2 year olds (3 of Europes top 4). Tamara looked very good LTO but is odds on. It's a race that often throws up upsets and given both horses quoted ran to an RPR of 111 LTO, I have to side with breeding and 8 times the price. The 12 post is less than ideal for JFYI however we've seen more mid-high draw winners than low, so hopefully can come sweeping down the outside.

I've also done the double Justify 2 yo with BUCHU @ 89/1 (case on the previous page)
 
WARM HEART is a big fancy of mine @ 3/1. JG didn't sound at all confident in an interview I saw yesterday, citing the trip, bends and American style of racing as potential issues for Inspiral, which are all very fair. Insprial can be awesome but she can also be shit. Warm Heart is more consistent and AOB said she's made for the race. Thats enough for me and at 3/1 I am happy siding with her.
 
charlie said:
WARM HEART is a big fancy of mine @ 3/1. JG didn't sound at all confident in an interview I saw yesterday, citing the trip, bends and American style of racing as potential issues for Inspiral, which are all very fair. Insprial can be awesome but she can also be shit. Warm Heart is more consistent and AOB said she's made for the race. Thats enough for me and at 3/1 I am happy siding with her.
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That's a tough race

Inspiral much the best ability wise, but she's always looked to have plenty of speed and can't see why she's not in the mile.

Warm Hearts improvement has come over 1m4f, so 1m2f round a tight turning track might see her tapped for tow.

Perhaps the solid option is In Italian for Chad brown who finished second to Tuesday last year

Not a race iv committed to a bet in yet
 
Having a look through the juvenile races and like the chances of No Nay Mets in the turf sprint

11/2 looks very fair as he's won his 3 US starts comfortably and this is one of the turf races the US has dominated

Happy to forgive him his royal ascot run at that price as its a very different test than what itll be tomorrow night
 
I have though just noticed crimson advocate and no nay mets have both run over 5f at gulfstream on firm going

Both carried 8st6 in those races but crimson advocate covered the distance 1.25 seconds faster

She also is the only horse to beat relief rally this season

The issue is obviously she hasnt been seen since ascot

So iv cashed out and will look to Dutch the pair likely on bigger prices on betfair
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
That's a tough race

Inspiral much the best ability wise, but she's always looked to have plenty of speed and can't see why she's not in the mile.

Warm Hearts improvement has come over 1m4f, so 1m2f round a tight turning track might see her tapped for tow.

Perhaps the solid option is In Italian for Chad brown who finished second to Tuesday last year

Not a race iv committed to a bet in yet
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I thought Warm Heart would open shorter than Inspiral. Gets a weight for age allowance and has been pretty much faultless this season barring a blip on soft at the Curragh. She doesn't have the question marks to answer re trip or handling tight turns which JG raised as legitimate concerns for Inspiral yesterday. If Frankie tries to go off quickly and win it from the front then he will almost certainly get into a battle with In Italian which would suit Warm Heart down to the ground. If that happens I can envisage WH out staying those two.
 
Be disappointed if Inspiral doesn't win that tbh. She can beat herself though. And I have a worry about her being too keen over the 10f. Doesn't need to go from the front though. If she settles she wins imo.

Never a big fan of the Friday, or betting on 2yos in general tbh. But Saturday looks good fun as usual. Strong European challenge in the turf races, I hope anyway!
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charlie said:
I thought Warm Heart would open shorter than Inspiral. Gets a weight for age allowance and has been pretty much faultless this season barring a blip on soft at the Curragh. She doesn't have the question marks to answer re trip or handling tight turns which JG raised as legitimate concerns for Inspiral yesterday. If Frankie tries to go off quickly and win it from the front then he will almost certainly get into a battle with In Italian which would suit Warm Heart down to the ground. If that happens I can envisage WH out staying those two.
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I'd imagine inspiral will be held up and they will try to use her turn of foot

Ability wise she's some way clear of the rest imo

Just not a horse I'd ever really trust
 
Morley Street said:
White Abario for me in the Classic, even though it’s a little suspicious that Rick Dutrow has improved him so much… his Whitney run is the best form on offer now imo
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Just can't get myself to warm to him, might be the fact I'm balls deep on AK
 
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Zachx02 said:
Just can't get myself to warm to him, might be the fact I'm balls deep on AK
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Yep, I'm all in with Arabian Knight too but there is a possibility that he gets into a speed duel up front and gets cooked come the stretch then the stalkers like Ushba, WA or a longshot will be snapping at his heels. It could be a cracker!
 
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