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Boodles Juvenile Handicap Hurdle (Fred Winter) 2019

Dicky Dunne said:
the one i like here is Maze Runner, runner up to Band of Outlaws (off levels) at Naas recently having made all, jump the last in front and made a horlex of it, albeit it Band of Outlaws was travelling better but i really think he would have put it up to him, managed to get himself right and put over 3ls between himself at the 3rd, rated 129 he'll be in receipt of 10lbs this time with the fav Band of Outlaws
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Interesting if he gets in ..where are the non runners above though - need Gigginstown to run only one ?
 
that's the issue alright, top one gone anyway, 2nd and 3rd hopefully go to the triumph, Couer Sublime possibly too, after that you're probably struggling tbh Coko Beach in there off 5lbs higher despite being 3ls behind last time too
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Ciel De Neige the one, if he runs!

Been holding off but as it's NRNB don't see any reason not to add him anymore. I presume all is well, have not heard an awful lot with regards to well being.

ML Bloodstock (Guy Cherel) retain ownership of this one (currently), he's had his 3 runs in France, finished behind Fanfan Du Seuil on debut off levels by just over a length, will be getting 4lbs from that one in this race though, I just have a sneaky feeling he will have been working alongside Tiger Tap Tap (Triumph bound) and held back from running to have him in here off a nice weight, this is pure speculation on my part.

He could be anything since being switched to Mullins, but I found it fascinating that Danny Mullins (I know he does ride over there occasionally anyway) was over in France to ride him for his debut run and WPM got hold of this one. I can put a line through his run LTO in Dieppe, his previous 2 runs are what make him of certain interest, including some form behind Pic D'Orhy, where he ran a cracker, also finishing a short distance ahead of Konitho, who looks unlikely to run but if they did meet CDN would be getting 4lbs from that one too.

A lot of the trainers have already played their hands, we know the form of many, CDN goes in under the radar, and besides him being trained by WPM he would be relatively low key I'd imagine.

WPM has a good gauge on the Irish form too with the likes of La Sorelita & Maze Runner contesting races against the best of these so far.

CDN is by no means a certainty to even run but with NRNB I would not be worried about that, he is 20/1 with Coral and probably goes off shorter if he is declared.
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Not a race you can really be confident about but that's where my pin landed as well. Given that the ML horses are often punted somewhat of a concern that so far no money has arrived. Could easily be half the price.

Unfortunately, couldn't get on with Corals so had to make do with WH who had the extra place but are not NRNB. Not too much of an issue at my stakes.
 
mayo said:
Interesting if he gets in ..where are the non runners above though - need Gigginstown to run only one ?
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I might be wrong but things I've picked up on I've got these down as NR's.

Gardens of Babylon, Konitho, Zizaneur, Montestrel, Adjali, Coeur Sublime, Torpillo, Fusil Raffles. Think there might be one or 2 more as there often is and that would mean one of my fancies Praceps would get in and possibly Maze Runner too.
 
Zizaneur confirmed to go and his owner rides him so he has absolutely no chance, woeful rider.
 
Friend Or Foe still needing another 8 to come out. Must be unlikely now?
 
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Ciel De Neige still there
 
The winner is lurking at number 20:devilish:
 
Hannon and Rose Sea Has both gone ... heard good things about both.
 
Kevloaf said:
Hannon and Rose Sea Has both gone ... heard good things about both.
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Yeah had also heard good things about hannon, had backed him off the back of comments by someone (Andy Holding maybe?)

The King D’Argent dream still lives on though!
 
A little bit leftfield this 1 but like the French horse Naturelle at a big price. Very speculative but this race can lend itself to a surprise or 2 given relative inexperience etc. Looks sure to have enough stamina given form in france on soft ground. Doesn't look overburdened in a race full of unknown qualities. Looks to have a high cruising speed, maybe the jockey is a slight worry but I do like a tilt at a big price on a less likely looking 1 in this. Around 25/1 to find out if its more style than substance but at the prices happy to have a little dabble.
 
DonnyBoy said:
A little bit leftfield this 1 but like the French horse Naturelle at a big price. Very speculative but this race can lend itself to a surprise or 2 given relative inexperience etc. Looks sure to have enough stamina given form in france on soft ground. Doesn't look overburdened in a race full of unknown qualities. Looks to have a high cruising speed, maybe the jockey is a slight worry but I do like a tilt at a big price on a less likely looking 1 in this. Around 25/1 to find out if its more style than substance but at the prices happy to have a little dabble.
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Might be a bigger price on the day? Unknown connections playing a part?

Interesting one!...
 
Kevloaf said:
Might be a bigger price on the day? Unknown connections playing a part?

Interesting one!...
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Absolutely more like a bigger price on the day given the connections. I would hold fire for that reason till the day definitely.
 
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