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Arkle 2020

Just took 33s on Vision D’honneur for this. Fell at the Punchestown festival and was midfield at Cheltenham after a 3rd behind Klassical Dream and Aramon (beaten 6 lengths). Elliott thought he was very immature mentally going into Punchestown and would be a much better prospect for this season. He just screams 2m chaser to me.

He’s absolutely enormous and I remember Kevin Blake saying after last years cheltenhan that Vision D’honneur would almost definitely make a very interesting chaser because he’s so big. Built for fences.

Elliott also said something going into Punchestown which had me interested in that he was not showing his best ability on the track but has bundles of talent at home. He expected him to be a much improved horse after getting a few months to grow up. I think 33s here is a fair price and have had a small early play with the idea of going in again if he comes out and says he’a definitely going chasing (as he surely will) and the horse comes out and runs well on his chasing debut.

The 12s with Bet365 is ridiculously short though it has to be said. Shorter than City Island for the Arkle for what reason?

Vision D’honneur @ 33/1
 
jack1092 said:
Another that might be interesting, from Rathhill's stable Billy is Precious Cargo 33/1. Not sure what exactly the excuse was at Aintree, but he was well fancied that day, he even got a mention in Hugh Taylor's blog! Nicky's quotes below would suggest he's excited for what's to come as well!
8Mar19 Sandown (16Sft, RPR 138)
Instead of bringing Thomas (Barr, owner) down we might take the horse up to him for Ayr. Precious Cargo is a fine beast and a bit of a bruiser of a horse and he's just messing around over hurdles this season, but it is exciting to think what he could do over a fence. He could be a Cheltenham horse this time next year but at the moment he still has a lot to learn - Nicky Henderson, trainer.
28Jan19 Kempton (16GS, RPR 126)
Precious Cargo was a bit keen and needs to learn to switch off a bit. He'll be going quietly and doesn't need to be going anywhere spectacular. He's a great jumper and he'll be over fences next year. He wouldn't want any further than two miles at the moment - Nicky Henderson, trainer
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I have Precious Cargo in the tracker, but don't think he's a 2 miler. I just don't think he's quick enough, based on what I saw last season, even if he was just 'messing around'.
 
Possibly COD! I will watch him back- maybe one for the any race markets but he’s not on yet.

MOM I had considered VDH as well, is he one for this or maybe the JLT instead? Any race possible again haha
 
Possibly COD! I will watch him back- maybe one for the any race markets but he’s not on yet.

MOM I had considered VDH as well, is he one for this or maybe the JLT instead? Any race possible again haha
 
I’d have thought VD would go over further also.
VD - remember that ?
 
ComplyOrDie said:
I have Precious Cargo in the tracker, but don't think he's a 2 miler. I just don't think he's quick enough, based on what I saw last season, even if he was just 'messing around'.
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I know that some of the stopwatch guys on twitter were raving about his Sandown run.
 
Just wondering if Farclas would be a potential Arkle runner for Gigginstown.
Triumph hurdle winner and has won all three chase races he's ran in ....?.
 
BigChaang said:
Just wondering if Farclas would be a potential Arkle runner for Gigginstown.
Triumph hurdle winner and has won all three chase races he's ran in ....?.
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Although I don't know for sure, I'd have him down as a JLT option myself, although there are so many of the Gigginstown lot I suspect the 'any race' option would likely be the call for them.
 
Will Gigginstown split their pack as much now?

Long term interest may have gone for them and just let Elliott put them in the right races?
 
Kevloaf said:
Will Gigginstown split their pack as much now?

Long term interest may have gone for them and just let Elliott put them in the right races?
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Something tells me that they won't be able to help themselves !
 
quevega said:
Something tells me that they won't be able to help themselves !
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I think your right Q, surely they'll want to go out with as many big winners as possible .
So maybe pitch a few in against each other .
 
BigChaang said:
I think your right Q, surely they'll want to go out with as many big winners as possible .
So maybe pitch a few in against each other .
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That lands on both sides :p
 
Be interesting to see how Nicholls handles Pic D'orhy, because that run at the festival was not his true running, I don't believe.

I'm pretty sure someone on here or somewhere else has said he was brought for chasing, so it will either be here or the JLT that is the aim I'm sure, RSA would be a trip beyond him I think.

I've taken the 'any race' price currently, but is one I'm keen to add to once we see an entry.
 
They will go slowly with Pic D, with a view to chasing, no decision made as of 2 weeks ago but leaning towards another year over hurdles. The other interesting one for the connections is Danny Kirwan who wont be seen until the spring and is rated 120 over hurdles so youd expect they will be taking a big swing at something, although off that rating it wont be cheltenham, unless they can get it up before.
 
The angle with Pic D'Ohry was that his French form was better relative to our juvenile form ... going out of that company, do we expect him to make any great waves? Won't he now have lost that edge?

No trainer I'd prefer a chaser to be trained by than Nicholls but he's known for pot hunting rather than just focusing on Cheltenham?

I'd rather back him during the season than for the festival
 
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Has anybody any thoughts on Getaway Trump for this. Finished the season very strong and looks like its got some size about him. Think it goes chasing and if so will be at 2 miles.
 
Kevloaf said:
The angle with Pic D'Ohry was that his French form was better relative to our juvenile form ... going out of that company, do we expect him to make any great waves? Won't he now have lost that edge?

No trainer I'd prefer a chaser to be trained by than Nicholls but he's known for pot hunting rather than just focusing on Cheltenham?

I'd rather back him during the season than for the festival
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Of course, out of juvenile company he may be found out further, but I don't believe we saw his true running in the Triumph, he's better than that, he looked physical, and like a chaser that day too, so I would be surprised if they stayed over hurdles for yet another year, despite Billy's info.

Agree about Nicholls, but I feel if he thinks one is good enough for the festival he won't hold back, and Frodon done his duties during the season and turned up for the festival too!
 
Very hard for 5yos in the Arkle since they binned the age allowance.
 
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