Humble Pie
Professional Sicko-pant
Welcome Nat x5
NRNB good option
Could be anything , looked decent on debut, certainly owes a few of us some money :highly_amused:
-
HELP US - Become a Patron - Fat Jockey is a horse racing community focused on all the big races in the UK and Ireland. We don't charge users but if you have found the site useful then any support towards the running costs is appreciated ... a small donation each month would be a huge contribution. Become a Patron!
Arkle 2020
- Thread starter billymag
- Start date
Welcome Nat x5
NRNB good option
Could be anything , looked decent on debut, certainly owes a few of us some money :highly_amused:
Nathaniel99999
Previous Lurker
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2020
- Messages
- 257
- Reaction score
- 47
- Points
- 0
Oh yeah the horse defiantly needed the experience since it was off for a long time. Was thinking though the horse was very lightly not raced compared to the others and still won with loads in hand. Plus I’ve even looked at all the horses for the Arkle and to me it just looks a weak Arkle this year and not any others have been a stand out for me yet.
Watched Notebook’s win but the form is just questionable for me but I could be wrong.
But I thought it was worth backing Annamix NRNB incase it did run again and goes straight for the Arkle.
ComplyOrDie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021) & Moderator
Welcome Nathaniel, Annamix is one I am keen on, and I put him up in the dark horses thread (it's on here somewhere, though rarely seen now), although mentioned him for a possible step up in trip, but I backed him for the Arkle straight after debut.
That was a really good performance first time out IMO.
Last edited:
BigChaang
Sha Tin Expert and FJ Patron
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2017
- Messages
- 5,633
- Reaction score
- 911
- Points
- 83
jack1092
Member
Not his biggest fan, but he had a good festival last year, so there is hope! Keals has stuck him up for this, and also doubled down on this weekends. Probably part of the move.
Actually don't think Segal was too far wrong with his article in the Weekender today.
charlie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. March 2021)
Some views are ok but he’s fundamentally not profitable which for a professional tipster isn’t good enough
jack1092
Member
Oh yeah- he's useless overall no doubting that. He moves markets which seems crazy.
Keals moving them ain't crazy IMO + he's on the Bapaume bandwagon too.
charlie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. March 2021)
Saxon Warrior
Member
- Joined
- Jan 1, 2019
- Messages
- 10,592
- Reaction score
- 6,964
- Points
- 83
The big issue with Tom Segal, is that you need to back your choice before he puts his selections up - as if they are the same selection :mad-new: then the price drop is gutting. :mad-new:
charlie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. March 2021)
Without derailing the thread, the biggest issue with Tom Segal is definitely not that his selections shorten, it's that he is a 'professional tipster' who doesn't make any money! (and he gets the bigger prices!)
Profit for 2013: 542.50
Profit for 2014: 402.00
Loss for 2015: -1296.50
Profit for 2016: 793.30
Loss for 2017: -107.70
Loss for 2018: -891.10
Profit for 2019: 236.61
Loss for 2020: -30.00
He has just as many losing years as he does profitable ones, and he is down 352 points overall in 8 years.
That's just not acceptable for someone who can supposedly move markets, and I don't take a blind bit of notice what this clown says.
Is it obvious I don't like Tom Segal
PS. The reason he avoids social media like the plague is he would be tore limb from limb by the betting public for being a hack, and he would probably lose his job at the RP as a result.
ComplyOrDie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021) & Moderator
I agree with all of that Charlie.
I can't standddddd listening to or hearing his voice. If he is on something I'll turn it off.
Gavin Lynch & Paul Kealy are portrayed as professional gamblers (and not tipsters), probably the reason I, and others (I believe), warm to them much more. They also don't have really annoying personalities, which helps!
I can't standddddd listening to or hearing his voice. If he is on something I'll turn it off.
Gavin Lynch & Paul Kealy are portrayed as professional gamblers (and not tipsters), probably the reason I, and others (I believe), warm to them much more. They also don't have really annoying personalities, which helps!
Without derailing the thread, the biggest issue with Tom Segal is definitely not that his selections shorten, it's that he is a 'professional tipster' who doesn't make any money! (and he gets the bigger prices!)
Profit for 2013: 542.50
Profit for 2014: 402.00
Loss for 2015: -1296.50
Profit for 2016: 793.30
Loss for 2017: -107.70
Loss for 2018: -891.10
Profit for 2019: 236.61
Loss for 2020: -30.00
He has just as many losing years as he does profitable ones, and he is down 352 points overall in 8 years.
That's just not acceptable for someone who can supposedly move markets, and I don't take a blind bit of notice what this clown says.
Is it obvious I don't like Tom Segal
PS. The reason he avoids social media like the plague is he would be tore limb from limb by the betting public for being a hack, and he would probably lose his job at the RP as a result.
I think the bible are reducing his work/slowly pushing him out, there have been a couple of Pricewise replacements in recent weeks.
They have also upgraded Kealy who (no facts to back this up) talks sense and appears to be more successful, he sat on a couple of preview panels 2/3 years ago and impressed so perhaps there is a strategy at bible HQ because, as you say, the papers credibility is at risk is their tipsters are continuously losing...
charlie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. March 2021)
Humble Pie
Professional Sicko-pant
Without derailing the thread, the biggest issue with Tom Segal is definitely not that his selections shorten, it's that he is a 'professional tipster' who doesn't make any money! (and he gets the bigger prices!)
Profit for 2013: 542.50
Profit for 2014: 402.00
Loss for 2015: -1296.50
Profit for 2016: 793.30
Loss for 2017: -107.70
Loss for 2018: -891.10
Profit for 2019: 236.61
Loss for 2020: -30.00
He has just as many losing years as he does profitable ones, and he is down 352 points overall in 8 years.
That's just not acceptable for someone who can supposedly move markets, and I don't take a blind bit of notice what this clown says.
Is it obvious I don't like Tom Segal
PS. The reason he avoids social media like the plague is he would be tore limb from limb by the betting public for being a hack, and he would probably lose his job at the RP as a result.
Tosser , absolute Tosser.
Cannot believe he’s still in the racing game :mad-new:
FaugheenTheMachine
Previous Lurker
- Joined
- Jan 30, 2018
- Messages
- 1,571
- Reaction score
- 15
- Points
- 0
Anay Turge
Fat Jockey Patron
Melon loves to Place at Cheltenham. I’d be confident he’d be pipped at the post again, by Fakir if both come here. The. Of course Notebook needs to be added to the mix as well
kinloch brae
Member
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2015
- Messages
- 1,855
- Reaction score
- 128
- Points
- 63
Without derailing the thread, the biggest issue with Tom Segal is definitely not that his selections shorten, it's that he is a 'professional tipster' who doesn't make any money! (and he gets the bigger prices!)
Profit for 2013: 542.50
Profit for 2014: 402.00
Loss for 2015: -1296.50
Profit for 2016: 793.30
Loss for 2017: -107.70
Loss for 2018: -891.10
Profit for 2019: 236.61
Loss for 2020: -30.00
He has just as many losing years as he does profitable ones, and he is down 352 points overall in 8 years.
That's just not acceptable for someone who can supposedly move markets, and I don't take a blind bit of notice what this clown says.
Is it obvious I don't like Tom Segal
PS. The reason he avoids social media like the plague is he would be tore limb from limb by the betting public for being a hack, and he would probably lose his job at the RP as a result.
Excellent piece of work - shame the Racing Post haven't done anything on the basis they think the lemmings will continue to buy into his 'success'.