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Arkle 2018

ComplyOrDie said:
No further word on PM, but as has been said before on here, no matter what happens in the Irish Arkle he will no doubt come on heaps for that run, given his absence since before Christmas.

I have and have had the top 4 in the betting covered for some time now, but without any doubt PM is my best result still.
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Yeah he seems to have drifted and since I didn't really cover Footpad early doors (despite him being my boy) I'm increasingly interested in a value play on PM
 
KingSprinterSacre said:
Jacob confirmed on On the Line that he rides SR and Ruby rides footpad
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Nice to have the sound bite, was very much expected.

Do you think if they both we're JLT horses they'd have done the same? Or tried one at the Arkle trip... Arkle being "the Arkle" and all?
 
Kevloaf said:
If you like SCeau Royal, I think North Hill Harvey has to be considered BC< on their Cheltenham run.... if you back more than one a race of course....
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Yes North hill Harvey is on my list , backed him too yesterday and have 33-1 (i think) from way back . Haven't got footpad backed
as a single , because i thought the price was too short , but in a stack of multiples .
Don't think I'll have any more plays in this , unless S.R or N.H.H still a decent price festival week.
 
Kevloaf said:
Nice to have the sound bite, was very much expected.

Do you think if they both we're JLT horses they'd have done the same? Or tried one at the Arkle trip... Arkle being "the Arkle" and all?
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Hard to know tbh. Owners arent afraid to run their horses against one another. If i was an owner id just run the horses at their best trip. Rather have 2 horses with a chance in one race than 1 with a chance and the other a hopeful punt. Perhaps different if one was an odds on shot and you were confident of the win.
Ive rambled on there and not sure if im making sense but my excuse is that Liverpool performance has just fried my head :mad: :mad:
 
Interesting that there are only 28 entries. You'd assume that the Willie's 3 Irish Arkle entries are in there and I know another three. Looking like a small field.
 
archie said:
Interesting that there are only 28 entries. You'd assume that the Willie's 3 Irish Arkle entries are in there and I know another three. Looking like a small field.
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Anything you'd like to share? :p
 
The introduction of the JLT has had a negative impact on the Arkle.
This race now regularly has single digit runners, in fact, can't rememebr the last time 10 or more....
 
Staggering that PM is the price he is depsite beating the favourite three times last year over hurdles.

Footpad has looked the most natural novice chaser I’ve seen but he’s not beaten a lot whereas PM has better Hurdle form.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Staggering that PM is the price he is depsite beating the favourite three times last year over hurdles.

Footpad has looked the most natural novice chaser I’ve seen but he’s not beaten a lot whereas PM has better Hurdle form.
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I think the difference in price is because Footpad has looked a Natural over fences and has some very nice runs backing it up.... Footpad wasn't far behind PM over hurdles but looks to have improved loads as a chaser... wheras we dont know whether PM has improved or stayed the same (or I suppose gotten worse) over fences based on 1 run....

Albeit I can see why PM is a more attractive bet at this stage... but the price looks right rather than wrong IMO compared to Footpad.
 
Kevloaf said:
I think the difference in price is because Footpad has looked a Natural over fences and has some very nice runs backing it up.... Footpad wasn't far behind PM over hurdles but looks to have improved loads as a chaser... wheras we dont know whether PM has improved or stayed the same (or I suppose gotten worse) over fences based on 1 run....

Albeit I can see why PM is a more attractive bet at this stage... but the price looks right rather than wrong IMO compared to Footpad.
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I don't see much downside backing PM nrnb at his current price. This market could change on its head in 10 days time.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I don't see much downside backing PM nrnb at his current price. This market could change on its head in 10 days time.
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If you're not already on yeah, I can see why it is a more attractive bet as I said.

I'm not in any hurry at all to get involved though now...
 
The advantage is fully on the side of Footpad at Leopardstown and when you take into account hurdling form, unless Petit Mouchoir gets blown away by Footpad next weekend then there will likely be enough optimism in the PM camp that they can reverse form at Cheltenham. And if he did get blown away then there's a strong chance the NRNB will come into play and bail you out. So from anyone looking at this race fresh, a bet on Petit Mouchour has only a small risk really.

Any slight doubts on the suitability of Cheltenham and good ground for Footpad could also be levelled at Petit Mouchoir too?
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
Entries out for this. 9 for WPM.
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Very small field. Can write off a whole host entered up whos going further without the ones that are well held.

Suprised mount news entered this weekend without an arkle entry. (Entered jlt and rsa)


I can only see 8 runners there at best.
 
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He's really exciting," said trainer Harry Whittington, who's only housed him since late last year. "Aidan [Coleman, his rider] felt he was sharper for the run and his jumping was tidier. Keeping him in a handicap tells us whether we're good enough for graded races and I think we're pretty set for the Kingmaker.

"He’s got loads of gears and I can't see any reason why we'd step him up in trip."

Pleased with these comments for now
 
Kevloaf said:
He's really exciting," said trainer Harry Whittington, who's only housed him since late last year. "Aidan [Coleman, his rider] felt he was sharper for the run and his jumping was tidier. Keeping him in a handicap tells us whether we're good enough for graded races and I think we're pretty set for the Kingmaker.

"He’s got loads of gears and I can't see any reason why we'd step him up in trip."

Pleased with these comments for now
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So why enter him in the JLT then?

Perhaps when they realise he can't win the Arkle but the JLT is a very open race things might look a touch different?
 
kinloch brae said:
So why enter him in the JLT then?

Perhaps when they realise he can't win the Arkle but the JLT is a very open race things might look a touch different?
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In case he whips around at the start in the Arkle :devilish:
 
Not writing off Bunk Off Early yet as he would surely have won yesterday. However, there would be question marks about whether the occasion was too much last year and I'd be happy for him to stay at home.
On the other hand, and this is purely a personal view, his Leopardstown form is definitely better than his 142 hurdle rating.....
 
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