2024 Ryanair Chase

[Rooster Booster]

Hed be a very unlikely runner

Has JP ever won the Champion chase?

No and maybe wonders if he missed a golden opportunity in 2015. Could well be on his mind now, we will see.

 

[Kevloaf]

2 years ago Allaho only beat Janidil 2L on his first start that season (Envoi Allen went off fav)

Enough to put me off any To Win Today and....



I think

 

[FinalFurlong91]

2 years ago Allaho only beat Janidil 2L on his first start that season (Envoi Allen went off fav)

Enough to put me off any To Win Today and....



I think

From memory Asterion Forlonge was in the process of beating allaho on the snaff before doing what Asterion does and coming down.

which was incredibly annoying as i was banking on allaho losing before getting stuck in for the ryanair that year :boxing:

 

[Kevloaf]

Bob Olinger at 33/1 anyone?

Bob seems to be in great form. He just wasn’t quite himself last season and we decided to pull stumps with him after his last start in January, give him a long break and look to start back from scratch this season. The intention is to go back over fences with him and we are looking at a conditions chase at Thurles at the end of November as his starting point. Hopefully, we can get him back to where he was a couple of seasons ago.

 

[ComplyOrDie]

Bob Olinger at 33/1 anyone?

Bob seems to be in great form. He just wasn’t quite himself last season and we decided to pull stumps with him after his last start in January, give him a long break and look to start back from scratch this season. The intention is to go back over fences with him and we are looking at a conditions chase at Thurles at the end of November as his starting point. Hopefully, we can get him back to where he was a couple of seasons ago.

Would be rude not to :highly_amused:

 

[opatcho]

Bob Olinger at 33/1 anyone?

Bob seems to be in great form. He just wasn’t quite himself last season and we decided to pull stumps with him after his last start in January, give him a long break and look to start back from scratch this season. The intention is to go back over fences with him and we are looking at a conditions chase at Thurles at the end of November as his starting point. Hopefully, we can get him back to where he was a couple of seasons ago.

Was thinking about it a few weeks ago

Envoi Allen was a world beater until he lost his way
Samco very similar, before winning the turners

not sure whether either of those went off the tracks as bad as Bob. Just looks like there’s something physically wrong with him

33/1 would be way too short for me, would want twice that though

I though Rachael comments on A Plus Tard was really interesting, she appeared to have underlying confidence they had him back. Be interesting to see if they do, and whether the same level of confidence yielded the same results for Bob

 

[Lobos]

If Rach is right then A Plus Tard must be a decent shout for another Betfair Chase win ??
Was 25's the last time I looked.

 

[darlojim]

If Rach is right then A Plus Tard must be a decent shout for another Betfair Chase win ??
Was 25's the last time I looked.

He seems really well and is working nicely. He’s progressing all the time, but I’m not 100% sure if he’ll make it to the Betfair Chase. We’d like to start him there, but if he’s not as ready as we’d like him to be, we’ll wait for the Savills Chase at Leopardstown’s Christmas meeting. We’ll know where we are with him from his work in the next week or so.

 

[Lobos]

Cheers Darlo. Interesting.

 

[opatcho]

If Rach is right then A Plus Tard must be a decent shout for another Betfair Chase win ??
Was 25's the last time I looked.

It’s the interview with her and Ruby, with Vanessa

ill rewatch it tonight but she seemed positive on him

Ruby further mentioned “don’t rule him out” on another show/podcast

does make me wonder, and looked at them 25’s for a while

 

[opatcho]

He seems really well and is working nicely. He’s progressing all the time, but I’m not 100% sure if he’ll make it to the Betfair Chase. We’d like to start him there, but if he’s not as ready as we’d like him to be, we’ll wait for the Savills Chase at Leopardstown’s Christmas meeting. We’ll know where we are with him from his work in the next week or so.

thanks for the update

 

[Joleg]

Bob Olinger at 33/1 anyone?

Bob seems to be in great form. He just wasn’t quite himself last season and we decided to pull stumps with him after his last start in January, give him a long break and look to start back from scratch this season. The intention is to go back over fences with him and we are looking at a conditions chase at Thurles at the end of November as his starting point. Hopefully, we can get him back to where he was a couple of seasons ago.

Just read the Stable Tour and was wondering if i was being stupid even considering it, but ...............

 

[JamieSensible]

Bob Olinger at 33/1 anyone?

Bob seems to be in great form. He just wasn’t quite himself last season and we decided to pull stumps with him after his last start in January, give him a long break and look to start back from scratch this season. The intention is to go back over fences with him and we are looking at a conditions chase at Thurles at the end of November as his starting point. Hopefully, we can get him back to where he was a couple of seasons ago.

I've had a nibble at 33/1, if anyone can get a horse right it's Henry

 

[FinalFurlong91]

Bob Olinger at 33/1 anyone?

Bob seems to be in great form. He just wasn’t quite himself last season and we decided to pull stumps with him after his last start in January, give him a long break and look to start back from scratch this season. The intention is to go back over fences with him and we are looking at a conditions chase at Thurles at the end of November as his starting point. Hopefully, we can get him back to where he was a couple of seasons ago.

We need a donkey emoji

 

[Kevloaf]

Was thinking about it a few weeks ago

Envoi Allen was a world beater until he lost his way
Samco very similar, before winning the turners

not sure whether either of those went off the tracks as bad as Bob. Just looks like there’s something physically wrong with him

33/1 would be way too short for me, would want twice that though

I though Rachael comments on A Plus Tard was really interesting, she appeared to have underlying confidence they had him back. Be interesting to see if they do, and whether the same level of confidence yielded the same results for Bob

66/1 for a horse than won the Turners (fortunately) to win the Ryanair is not a realistic price to want :loyal: .... I want 100/1 but it won't happen :triumphant:

33/1 is a price with the potential to shorten significantly. Does it have a hugely significant potential to shorten..... probably not :dejection: .... but cashout for plenty at the 33s so I can see why it'll get a few nibbles.



They don't come back as well .... but Allaho is popular enough :indecisiveness:




Appreciate It wins this anyway though. 8th November and I'm talking about the Ryanair. Bleeeeeuggghhhhhh

 

[Kevloaf]

He seems really well and is working nicely. He’s progressing all the time, but I’m not 100% sure if he’ll make it to the Betfair Chase. We’d like to start him there, but if he’s not as ready as we’d like him to be, we’ll wait for the Savills Chase at Leopardstown’s Christmas meeting. We’ll know where we are with him from his work in the next week or so.

I think I'll back him at 25s and if he's not running can you let me know before the bookies :cheerful:

 

[darlojim]

I think I'll back him at 25s and if he's not running can you let me know before the bookies :cheerful:

Thats a quote from Henrys stable tour, if he were to run like you say 25s has to be a crazy price:anonymous:

 

[BuckingThe Trend]

In my opinion if Allaho comes back tomorrow at 75% the horse he was when winning this race in 2022 then he wins the Ryanair in 2024. OR 177 ad RPR 180. Nothing else comes even close. 10 years old yeah but he is so so much better than any other horse being talked about. Even Jonbon. Sit and wait would be my advice.

 

[Kevloaf]

In my opinion if Allaho comes back tomorrow at 75% the horse he was when winning this race in 2022 then he wins the Ryanair in 2024. OR 177 ad RPR 180. Nothing else comes even close. 10 years old yeah but he is so so much better than any other horse being talked about. Even Jonbon. Sit and wait would be my advice.

I don't like that analogy at all, about only needing to be 75% as good and that'd still be good enough

Been thinking about it for hours though and can't really pin point why, but then I think it's because of Sprinter Sacre winning the QMCC when he wasn't as good as he was



Then beyond that I literally can't think of any horse who has come back to win a G1 at a festival not being 100% ?

Maybe like Kauto Star bouncing back and things.... but then, we are talking about Allaho ... not Kauto or Sprinter.....

Maybe Allaho is up there, maybe retaining "some" of his ability is enough .... but how do we see that, a workmanlike beating of Janidil is probably good enough to place in a Ryanair regardless :applouse:

 

[FinalFurlong91]

I don't like that analogy at all, about only needing to be 75% as good and that'd still be good enough

Been thinking about it for hours though and can't really pin point why, but then I think it's because of Sprinter Sacre winning the QMCC when he wasn't as good as he was



Then beyond that I literally can't think of any horse who has come back to win a G1 at a festival not being 100% ?

Maybe like Kauto Star bouncing back and things.... but then, we are talking about Allaho ... not Kauto or Sprinter.....

Maybe Allaho is up there, maybe retaining "some" of his ability is enough .... but how do we see that, a workmanlike beating of Janidil is probably good enough to place in a Ryanair regardless :applouse:

What other open company grade 1 chase only requires a 165-168 performance to win?

if allaho retains his enthusiasm and stays sound what beats him?

If he was 3/1 I'd be dead against him but at 6s the worries are more than factored into the price