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2022 Novice Hurdle Division

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Winging The Last said:
Well Arctic Warrior was very disappointing. Very keen and didn't jump well at all
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Really needs to tidy up the jumping as I do think he has all the other ingredients to be half decent. I was very disappointed with Annie G too.
 
Lbur4288 said:
Really needs to tidy up the jumping as I do think he has all the other ingredients to be half decent. I was very disappointed with Annie G too.
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Yeah I don't think her form is that special. She's just been mopping up in the summer in easy races. She was well beaten in her first three races then came close to Gyspy Island who had been off the track for a while so wasn't match fit plus may have lost a bit of her talent after the injury. I think Annie G will struggle against the better mares over the winter
 
Winging The Last said:
Yeah I don't think her form is that special. She's just been mopping up in the summer in easy races. She was well beaten in her first three races then came close to Gyspy Island who had been off the track for a while so wasn't match fit plus may have lost a bit of her talent after the injury. I think Annie G will struggle against the better mares over the winter
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Pretty much sums up my thoughts. I did was the massively unfit (at the time) Gypsy Island to get another boost to the form and that's the only thing I wanted from Annie G today.
 
A couple of Gordon Elliott novice hurdlers entered in the Persian War, maybe with one eye to get a mark.

I A Connect and Off Your Rocco

Otherwise there are plenty of novices who aren’t novices for much longer in the race.
Nicholls has a couple in the race including new recruit Dargiannini from Henry Whittingham who has a record of 3 wins from 4 races and Paso Doble
 
Knappers Hill entered in the novice hurdle over 2 miles on Friday at Chepstow
 
The penny seemed to drop for The Bomber Liston finally yesterday - he'll be one I'll be keeping an eye on, particularly when going up towards 3 miles.
 
Just Cashed out My Journey With me bet for AB. More likely a supreme/ballymore type
 
hardheld said:
Just Cashed out My Journey With me bet for AB. More likely a supreme/ballymore type
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What makes you think that out of interest? I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if he was a Supreme horse, looks between a Ballymore or AB type to me with preference for the latter on runs/style thus far.
 
Atlantic Viking said:
What makes you think that out of interest? I'd be absolutely gobsmacked if he was a Supreme horse, looks between a Ballymore or AB type to me with preference for the latter on runs/style thus far.
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I agree here, certainly doesn't seem supreme with even Henry acknowledging last season that he probably doesn't have the same gars as someone like Bob, and being a galloping type. Which all evidence on his previous runs seem to point to aswell.
 
hardheld said:
Just Cashed out My Journey With me bet for AB. More likely a supreme/ballymore type
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That's a bold move :encouragement:

I'd say he's got 3m chaser written all over him personally, so Ballymore/Bartlett.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
That's a bold move :encouragement:

I'd say he's got 3m chaser written all over him personally, so Ballymore/Bartlett.
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Just my Personal opinion, I thought the same that he’s a 3 mile galloper, but changed my mind. Will wait for update and entry, but don’t think he’s a boat, he Defo has some pace. BALLYMORE more Likely then supreme
 
It's a bit of a cliche but my thought process is that generally pace wins the supreme, gears win the Ballymore. So the fact Henry doesn't think JWM has got gears is a concern for me having backed him. The Supreme tends to be an end to end gallop (similar to an Arkle which is why horses do well the next year) while the Ballymore tends to be run slower early with horses quickening in the final stages. Of course each renewal has different pace angles but I tend to use that as my general starting point when trying to pigeon hole horses this early in their career!
 
This, from Twitter, by a guy with supposed links to Robcour (I can't verify but someone on here said it's likely to be accurate info) suggests Albert Bartlett and than JWM is the best of their novice hurdlers. I've got him covered for AB in lots of bets, including a roll up that would pay for all my festival outlay so hopefully for me the guy is right!

https://twitter.com/Ruby_Tuesday59/status/1433403618338787331?s=19

Also worth noting that this guy said that gin was going for mares which appears to be happening based on comments yesterday.
 
The betting suggests Ballymore for him over the other 2 races but that's not always correct.
 
Odin said:
This, from Twitter, by a guy with supposed links to Robcour (I can't verify but someone on here said it's likely to be accurate info) suggests Albert Bartlett and than JWM is the best of their novice hurdlers. I've got him covered for AB in lots of bets, including a roll up that would pay for all my festival outlay so hopefully for me the guy is right!

https://twitter.com/Ruby_Tuesday59/status/1433403618338787331?s=19

Also worth noting that this guy said that gin was going for mares which appears to be happening based on comments yesterday.
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A poster here on the forum owns that twitter account, he doesn't have links to Robcour but pays for an info service from someone possibly linked, I forget the names involved but maybe someone else here has a better memory than I do and can fill in the blanks.

Race entries and performance will help clear it up, there's plenty of time and opportunity to rejig bets if necessary, it'd be different if we're talking about an injury which noone is.
 
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