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2015 Gold Cup

I think following his win in the Welsh national Synchronise was regarded as a slogger, but given the attritional nature of some gold cups it can be that extra staying power that wins the day, class doesn't always win that particular race, not saying I fancy SW but I don't take PN's comments as lightly as I used to
 
MrMcGoldrick said:
I think following his win in the Welsh national Synchronise was regarded as a slogger, but given the attritional nature of some gold cups it can be that extra staying power that wins the day, class doesn't always win that particular race, not saying I fancy SW but I don't take PN's comments as lightly as I used to
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II agree MMG, though in that case I think SC main dangers are RTR and CL.

Has anyone noticed PP have gone 7/1 on Hollywell?
 
loveracing said:
II agree MMG, though in that case I think SC main dangers are RTR and CL.

Has anyone noticed PP have gone 7/1 on Hollywell?
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That's really short, they must have seen some serious money for him, are they gambling owners does anyone know, or maybe stable cash, it's certainly a gambling stable
 
loveracing said:
Will AP be on board CL?
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Paddy Power go 8/11 Carlingford 1/1 Holywell. I know it's his last season but I can't believe he can get off a horse that won the Irish Hennessy last time out. Richie McLernon a very able deputy for Holywell.
 
Mytentoryours said:
Paddy Power go 8/11 Carlingford 1/1 Holywell. I know it's his last season but I can't believe he can get off a horse that won the Irish Hennessy last time out. Richie McLernon a very able deputy for Holywell.
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Whichever he chooses to ride will get smashed on the day of the race. I think JP will allow him to choose his horse this time. :)
 
loveracing said:
Whichever he chooses to ride will get smashed on the day of the race. I think JP will allow him to choose his horse this time. :)
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Yes I agree. I'd have thought JP would want him on his but it wouldn't surprise me if your right and he lets him choose. It would be a very tough decision because they are similar types in their jumping can be a bit of a mixed back but both very strong stayers.
 
It has happened before - AP rode TDS rather than Uxizandre in JLT last year.
 
Lester said:
It has happened before - AP rode TDS rather than Uxizandre in JLT last year.
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That looked like another wrong pick for a while too. :)

I remember reading a blog with AP saying that Moreofthat might go chasing this year becuase he would love another Gold Cup before he retires... I supose JP might let him choose but would mean more to ride the winner in green and gold.
 
Boston Bob: I was a little bit disappointed with him in the Hennessy but I imagine he'll go for the Gold Cup. It does look an open race.

Djakadam: He was very very good last time. It was a performance that certainly made us look at the Gold Cup and that's the plan. He handled the track until he got one fence wrong at the Festival last season. I don't think his jumping is an issue. He got round Newbury okay and Gowran is a fair test for any horse. Ruby said he'd never gone as easy in the Thyestes and to me that was a Gold Cup performance.

On His Own: He’s another intended runner in the Gold Cup. Last year’s winner could win it again the way it is looking this year and he was certainly nearly good enough then. He jumps a bit to his right which is not good but he has so much stamina that it doesn’t matter so much that he gives away a little bit of ground.
 
Sounds like Djakadam is definitely the number one there. Have a few slips at 20s.
 
AP to ride JPs
As I said, Carlingford Lough will be my Gold Cup ride; he gave me a great feel winning the Irish Hennessy and I am very much looking forward to riding him in the Gold Cup, if he lines up. Gold Cup day is probably the most important day of the whole jumping year and I am hoping he has got a live chance.

People might look back to last year and point out he was only sixth in the RSA but he never really got into a rhythm and we saw more of what he was capable of when he won the Grade One at Punchestown. John Kiely has the horse in great shape and he is definitely going there with a chance.

My other possible ride was Holywell and he was right back to form at Kelso last Thursday. It wasn’t much of a race but he travelled well and jumped better as the race went on. The way the horse improves through this time of the year he is definitely a Gold Cup contender, that is for sure.
 
Old Vic said:
AP to ride JPs
As I said, Carlingford Lough will be my Gold Cup ride; he gave me a great feel winning the Irish Hennessy and I am very much looking forward to riding him in the Gold Cup, if he lines up. Gold Cup day is probably the most important day of the whole jumping year and I am hoping he has got a live chance.

People might look back to last year and point out he was only sixth in the RSA but he never really got into a rhythm and we saw more of what he was capable of when he won the Grade One at Punchestown. John Kiely has the horse in great shape and he is definitely going there with a chance.

My other possible ride was Holywell and he was right back to form at Kelso last Thursday. It wasn’t much of a race but he travelled well and jumped better as the race went on. The way the horse improves through this time of the year he is definitely a Gold Cup contender, that is for sure.
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I only have 1 bet in the GC and might have a cover bet on CL now seeing that quote. Not that I think he will win, but would be nice to chear on AP in his last GC.
 
loveracing said:
I only have 1 bet in the GC and might have a cover bet on CL now seeing that quote. Not that I think he will win, but would be nice to chear on AP in his last GC.
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If you are going to back him I'd say the time is now. Look at the move on shut the front door.

Being hard nosed about it his horses are generally over bet at Cheltenham and it will be worse than usual until the farewell tour ends.

Sometimes it's not about the money though.
 
Its all about the money MG, no sentiment in betting or its the poor house for us.
 
iainmcf said:
Its all about the money MG, no sentiment in betting or its the poor house for us.
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This is true but when you do back the ones you want to win it is so sweet.

Moscow Flyers 2nd Champion Chase was one that sticks in my head.
 
iainmcf said:
Its all about the money MG, no sentiment in betting or its the poor house for us.
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But isn't AP's last ride worth that little extra?

I can't see myself cheering him on up the hill if I don't have a dime on him.
 
If AP is upside a horse I've got a good few quid riding on approaching the last I'll have my fingers crossed he gets unseated, last Gold cup or not. :)
 
Paul isnt worried about the hill. Jim Cullotty is full of opinions but I'd rather listen to a man who does it week in week out.

 
MrMcGoldrick said:
If AP is upside a horse I've got a good few quid riding on approaching the last I'll have my fingers crossed he gets unseated, last Gold cup or not. :)
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You are too honest MMG. I admire his achievements but this roadshow is starting to grate already.
 
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