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Stayers Hurdle 2018

Frank Berry - "we just thought his jumping hadn't been the slickest but we're not saying he wont go back over fences, maybe even later this spring, we'll just see how he gets on here first."
 
More like green and gold Russian roulette.
 
ComplyOrDie said:
Yanworth now a player in this race, confirmed today by Alan King. Taken out of all other options for the festival.
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Agreed.

They had to really, not looked the most natural of jumpers and they must look at Supersundae and think...we beat him!

Not sure why King was talking about the Ultima last week though!
 
Didn't someone say he would definitely NOT run over hurdles?? :devilish::highly_amused:
 
doctorwu said:
Didn't someone say he would definitely NOT run over hurdles?? :devilish::highly_amused:
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Pretty sure I said I'd be prettty certain he dosent run over hurdles. Or among those lines.
 
You can see the logic.

How much you can trust last year's win over supasundae is open for debate.
 
Kevloaf said:
You can see the logic.

How much you can trust last year's win over supasundae is open for debate.
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Supasundae has done nothing but improve this season, has filled out that big frame and is a real powerhouse now
 
Only just found these articles by Simon Rowlands on sectionals..... well worth reading IMO.

Have to say I am a little surprised by his selection having read it... I didn't expect that!

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sectional-spotlight/stayers'-hurdle

Wholestone 4 wins 3 places from 7 runs 100% "place record" around Cheltenham makes 16/1 e/w somewhat more appealing too?
 
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I’m against Supasundae so am obviously going to try and find fault, but has he really improved that much this year? Won one out of three races and that was over 2m. The one time he’s raced over 3m this season he looks like he was outstayed to me, and I don’t see what entitles him to be a shorter price than Yanworth. We have no idea how good Apple’s Jade is over 3 miles as that was her only go at the trip... 12 lengths back to Augusta Kate in 4th certainly doesn’t boost the form. I actually think Yanworth got to the front too early at aintree last year, and think this race will be perfect for him. They’ll go a strong pace up front and think he’ll just travel and gallop and creep his way into the race
 
Robbante said:
I’m against Supasundae so am obviously going to try and find fault, but has he really improved that much this year? Won one out of three races and that was over 2m. The one time he’s raced over 3m this season he looks like he was outstayed to me, and I don’t see what entitles him to be a shorter price than Yanworth. We have no idea how good Apple’s Jade is over 3 miles as that was her only go at the trip... 12 lengths back to Augusta Kate in 4th certainly doesn’t boost the form. I actually think Yanworth got to the front too early at aintree last year, and think this race will be perfect for him. They’ll go a strong pace up front and think he’ll just travel and gallop and creep his way into the race
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I think he's improved a hell of a lot personally. Physically filled out and in the jumping department.
He's a proper horse now imo.
It's a good rivalry between the 2 though after meeting in a bumper a few years ago.
I do However think supasundae is comfortably infront now.
 
Scooby91 said:
I think he's improved a hell of a lot personally. Physically filled out and in the jumping department.
He's a proper horse now imo.
It's a good rivalry between the 2 though after meeting in a bumper a few years ago.
I do However think supasundae is comfortably infront now.
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I see nothing to suggest that he’s a better horse now over 3 miles than he was last year. Yanworth and the worlds end my biggest winners here and happy to have that as my play in the race. I noticed yesterday that I have a double on If The Cap Fits and Supasundae for this from back in October! Not sure how as have never fancied Supasundae and didn’t think I’d backed him
 
Kevloaf said:
Only just found these articles by Simon Rowlands on sectionals..... well worth reading IMO.

Have to say I am a little surprised by his selection having read it... I didn't expect that!

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/sectional-spotlight/stayers'-hurdle

Wholestone 4 wins 3 places from 7 runs 100% "place record" around Cheltenham makes 16/1 e/w somewhat more appealing too?
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Going on that basis Kev then UNWIMH must have a fair chance, 4 wins from 5 and 1 place, 80% win course record and 100% course place rate too.

Currently 14/1 NRNB with PP!
 
Robbante said:
I see nothing to suggest that he’s a better horse now over 3 miles than he was last year. Yanworth and the worlds end my biggest winners here and happy to have that as my play in the race. I noticed yesterday that I have a double on If The Cap Fits and Supasundae for this from back in October! Not sure how as have never fancied Supasundae and didn’t think I’d backed him
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I completely get where your coming from. Gut instinct i think he wins and i think he wins well. And One of the performances of the festival.
Making a very competative race look easy work.
 
I'd like Yanworth to win this.

4th in the Bumper (debatable ride).
2nd in the old Neptune (to Yorkhill)
Disqualified in last years Supreme (wrong trip).

Gets unfair criticism I feel for his defeats at Cheltenham, I'll be cheering him on.
 
Scooby91 said:
I completely get where your coming from. Gut instinct i think he wins and i think he wins well. And One of the performances of the festival.
Making a very competative race look easy work.
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I better hope IFCF wins then :) I guess you could argue that he wouldn’t have beaten Faugheen (and other decent 2 milers) over 2m last year so he’s obviously in good heart and that’s improvement itself
 
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