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Triumph Hurdle 2018

Classic cliche first post here but long time reader thought I'd get myself involved here!

In my opinion this race is really shaping up to be a cracker come March! Apple's Shakira makes an obvious favourite here and she did excite me from start of the year prior to here first run here, but I must say the past few weeks I've been starting to think she could easily be beaten by a fair few others, certainly going to be an intersting few months leading up to March for sure!!!
 
Style de Garde wins today. And easily, he beat We Have A Dream in france... why should he not prove to be better also here in the UK? Especially when both trained by Nicky.

Although is this a master plot of Nickys? Trying out WHAD in graded company, having SDG running in standard races... then come the day Apples shakira goes to the mares novice and Nico sits pretty on SDG winning the triumph...
 
I think we have a dream has a proper chance, that ground was horrible at chepstow and he went hands and heels until the last, then pulled away once Jacob used the whip.

How much weight would a juvenile mare get on the boys in this?
 
lukemouaj said:
Style de Garde wins today. And easily, he beat We Have A Dream in france... why should he not prove to be better also here in the UK? Especially when both trained by Nicky.

Although is this a master plot of Nickys? Trying out WHAD in graded company, having SDG running in standard races... then come the day Apples shakira goes to the mares novice and Nico sits pretty on SDG winning the triumph...
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No plot. The only plot could have been SDG fred winter but gumball is rated too highly on possibly a silly mark. So he wouldn't have ran here today id have thought
 
Scooby91 said:
No plot. The only plot could have been SDG fred winter but gumball is rated too highly on possibly a silly mark. So he wouldn't have ran here today id have thought
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Fair enough, however someone mentioned on here the other day about SAO may head straight to the fred winter...i thought was a great shout... would not be the first time nichols pulled that one off.

At the moment i just feel Shakira wont run here and Espoir will end up being Fav.
 
lukemouaj said:
Fair enough, however someone mentioned on here the other day about SAO may head straight to the fred winter...i thought was a great shout... would not be the first time nichols pulled that one off.

At the moment i just feel Shakira wont run here and Espoir will end up being Fav.
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If you think that, have you considered backing

Apple's Shakira Mares Novice / Espoir D'allen Triumph double

without the NRNB? 53/1 ....
 
SDG winning today should put him shorter than WHAD?
I don't think it will though
 
Actually have a lucky 15

Claimantakin (supreme)
Might Bite
Espoir (triumph)
Shakira (mares novice)

2187/1

I would add Benie des diuex but have too many multiples with her already haha xD
 
She has run over 2m3f & 2m4f... could only see Ryanair if she stays at that distance. Would love to see her step up in trip and against the boys. If she could get 3miles well and beat the boys id be all over her for the Gold Cup. Her jumping is impecable...
 
Denmania said:
What would Benie Des Diuex's most likely target be ?
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Or the mares hurdle over the same distance.

I wouldn't have considered that as she looks brilliant over a fence... but so did VVM
 
Very true... have very similar profile to VVM bought from france banged straight over fences wina every race then revert back to hurdles and win at the festival...

She just looked so impressive that id be heartbroken if sent over hurdles to the mares...
 
lukemouaj said:
Very true... have very similar profile to VVM bought from france banged straight over fences wina every race then revert back to hurdles and win at the festival...

She just looked so impressive that id be heartbroken if sent over hurdles to the mares...
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That is how I felt about VVM .... that worked out well though I suppose. Although when they switched VVM, it was because Faugheen was out and Annie got re-routed... and ther ewasn't an Apple's Jade heading the market.... so I've got more hope this time that she'll take her chance.


Actually, she came over to UK didn't she... Carlisle, OR 142. Would she get an entry in the Brown Plate perhaps?
 
Yeah i guess, but they are not looking too strong again with all their injuries... would very much depend on her next run...

As she definitelt would need on to win a big race... however if she can get into a handicap off 142... she will Lap them xD
 
The Highclere Thoroughbred-owned Newbury winner Style De Garde can still be backed at 25-1, but that will change if he can beat the top-rated Gumball, also a 25-1 chance and in the hands of Philip Hobbs, whose three Triumph winners include last year's standout juvenile Defi Du Seuil.

Henderson said:*"I like the way he did it at Newbury and it was quite soft ground that day. He won one in France before that but he has got to step in company."

Hobbs hopes we will see a better Gumball than the one who was beaten pointless by Apple's Shakira at Cheltenham.

"I think Gumball might be suited by the flatter track. His jumping was very good when he won at Stratford, but he wasn't so clever at either Chepstow or Cheltenham. I think he's better than he looked at Cheltenham," he said.*
 
Winner not even quoted :highly_amused:
 
Scooby91 said:
Well i diddnt expect that.
Style de garde probably fred winter now tbh.
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Gumball seemed to be a better horse today that SDG ... but couldn't fancy either now.

Not sure it franks the Apple's Shakira form AT ALL ....... BUT, I can't have the winner being a serious contender?
 
Very disappointing. Gumball not done a great deal for the AS form either.

More questions than answers after that.
 
WHAT A SHOCKER!

If anything this has boosted WHAD & Sussex Ranger form...

Esprit de Smoza 23 lengths behind Ranger at Sandown... Apples shakira form worth nothing if we go by this race....
 
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