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Yosser said:
Something has been happening. Salvator Mundi has started to be clipped in for the Supreme and Gaelic Warrior is weak for about 6 bookies in the Ryanair. Galopin Des Champs also nudged out for the Gold Cup and Fastorslow strengthening
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All just with tinpot bookies, I wouldnt take any notice of those moves whatsoever
 
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Paul Ferguson's book is published tomorrow. At this stage of the season, it could be as little as a positive write up.
 
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I really like Il Est Francais for the King George as well. As Kev says can’t really use the form in behind to beat him with as he travelled and jumped superbly, like an established chaser, it was the best novice chase performance all season for me.

Another summer to strengthen up and he could be some sight in the big one this Boxing Day. Fastorslow would have the best form of course but would need to be A1 if Il Est Francais turns up in a similar mood to last year.
 
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I think Fact to File will go for KG. But now is not the time to back Him. Most likely JD will be used for a prep run, will be only be half fit, and wont be given a hard time, like all his seasonable debuts.

Reasons why i think F2F will run in KG.

1) Mullins will go for back to back UK Championships
2) JP has never won the KG, and has other horses for LT at Xmas (CX, Spillans tower, IKTWYT)
3) Why would Mullins want to run F2F against GDC 3 times before the GC? He always prefers to split his bet horses up and target many G1 as possible.

Best time to back F2F for the KG is once he gets beat in JD, and hopefully pushed out to double digits. Will see a different horse one month later at Xmas
 
there's a final furlong podcast with paul ferguson - novice chasers to follow. doesn't sound like ferguson has much insight on mullins novice chasers (or saving it for the book). if he doesn't have mullins insight it's going to disappoint some readers I think

always enjoy hearing what's he has pickes up from the yards
 
fatherjohn said:
there's a final furlong podcast with paul ferguson - novice chasers to follow. doesn't sound like ferguson has much insight on mullins novice chasers (or saving it for the book). if he doesn't have mullins insight it's going to disappoint some readers I think

always enjoy hearing what's he has pickes up from the yards
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He rarely does tbh. I probably buy it at this point to keep up a collection and see if there's anything of interest we may have missed this side of the water. OJA is the must have book imo.
 
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Just saw on my twitter feed according to Josh Stacey - Jeriko du Reponet, Jango Baie, Iberico Lord and Shanagh Bob confirmed to go chasing. No plans with Sir Gino as of yet.
 
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Min The Merciless said:
Just saw on my twitter feed according to Josh Stacey - Jeriko du Reponet, Jango Baie, Iberico Lord and Shanagh Bob confirmed to go chasing. No plans with Sir Gino as of yet.
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Had messages of the same but Sir Gino staying hurdling I was told, which is what Nicky had already said previously.

Jonbon Sticking to 2m.
 
Mark Howard put an update out on the 2/9/24 about one jump ahead.in the update theres a bit from Rich Ricci saying "would be nice to think he would develop into a major contender for the Triumph" And to think the price crash on Willy De Houelle started a few days before! Bloody chrome book wouldnt let me cut and paste it.
 
Min The Merciless just seen Josh Stacey’s tweet now as well.

Is it just me or anyone else that seen it not think it could be taken as a worry for Constitution Hill that Sir Ginos decision may be based on how he does in the Fighting Fifth?!

Unless Josh has picked that up wrong.
 
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Craigy14 said:
Min The Merciless just seen Josh Stacey’s tweet now as well.

Is it just me or anyone else that seen it not think it could be taken as a worry for Constitution Hill that Sir Ginos decision may be based on how he does in the Fighting Fifth?!

Unless Josh has picked that up wrong.
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Yea was my exact reading of it haha
 
For any Iroko fans

"I can confirm Iroko will return to action on November 3rd in the Colin Palmer Chase at Carlisle over 2m4f. The season target is the Grand National & Cheltenham may not be on the agenda this time around."

https://x.com/GingerJoeRacing/status/1833849450311131459

I'd say that's a wise move by JP given all the weapons at his disposal this season.
 
JackieMoon33 said:
For any Iroko fans

"I can confirm Iroko will return to action on November 3rd in the Colin Palmer Chase at Carlisle over 2m4f. The season target is the Grand National & Cheltenham may not be on the agenda this time around."

https://x.com/GingerJoeRacing/status/1833849450311131459

I'd say that's a wise move by JP given all the weapons at his disposal this season.
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My first defeat of the season. I had covered him for the Ryanair at 66/1 but I think it was worth the punt at that price
 
Craigy14 said:
Min The Merciless just seen Josh Stacey’s tweet now as well.

Is it just me or anyone else that seen it not think it could be taken as a worry for Constitution Hill that Sir Ginos decision may be based on how he does in the Fighting Fifth?!

Unless Josh has picked that up wrong.
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Haven't seen the tweet yet. Will do my daily scouring after work but in my mind, from the end of last season, I think they will let Sir Gino take his chance in the CH anyway. A light campaign. Couple of runs and then let him take his chance before chasing the season after. There is plenty of time to get him onside but I reckon connections will just say "let's have a stab at it" all the positivity around Constitution Hill won't have been for nothing. Possibly a few games being played with wording here
 
Yosser said:
My first defeat of the season. I had covered him for the Ryanair at 66/1 but I think it was worth the punt at that price
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Wouldn't be unlike JP to send one of his to the Ryanair on his way to the Grand National.
 
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Exar Essay said:
Wouldn't be unlike JP to send one of his to the Ryanair on his way to the Grand National.
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Yeah it's certainly not ruled out. I had 2 wild swipes at the Ryanair in amongst the main protagonists. Iroko was one and Inthepocket was the other. Something just keeps saying to me that inthepocket will go into open company and with the news of Jonbon, Jeriko and likely news that Mirazur West will also go chasing in my mind strengthens that. I think I've done a good job on the JP horses. This is my planned last cheltenham so I'm swinging a lot in my favour early with a view to hammering into them closer to the time
 
HesTheOne said:
Yea was my exact reading of it haha
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Glad it wasn’t just me then.

Now I know Josh seems close to Seven Barrows with his media duties over the last year or so, so it may be some ‘mind games’ but I would be surprised it that was the case.

Just didn’t strike me as something I wanted to hear when Nicky has been gushing at how good he looks and seems in order etc (which I do know he does a lot before anyone mentions it haha). Obviously Constitution Hill (CH) will do his talking on the track and he doesn’t know what’s been said or not been said. It may just be a bit of caution from Nicky so he doesn’t end up with egg on his face if CH doesn’t come back the horse he was.
 
Yosser said:
Yeah it's certainly not ruled out. I had 2 wild swipes at the Ryanair in amongst the main protagonists. Iroko was one and Inthepocket was the other. Something just keeps saying to me that inthepocket will go into open company and with the news of Jonbon, Jeriko and likely news that Mirazur West will also go chasing in my mind strengthens that. I think I've done a good job on the JP horses. This is my planned last cheltenham so I'm swinging a lot in my favour early with a view to hammering into them closer to the time
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I've not heard anything at all, but I am worried about ITP. He was due to make his comeback a couple of times last year and didn't appear. Paul Ferguson's book doesn't fill you with confidence either, simply hoping he returns to action, never mind delivering any results. Then again, I don't know how much knowledge, other than that which is readily available, Paul has of Henry's yard.

HENRY DE BROMHEAD is the dominant trainer in this year’s Leading Prospects section from Ireland and the County Waterford handler will be desperately hoping that 2023 Top Novices’ Hurdle winner Inthepocket returns to action in the autumn to further strengthen what would appear to be a deeply promising squad of novice chasers.​
 
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