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2023 Grand National

….looks to me like Stay Away Fay declared on Friday.
 
Would appreciate an update later today if you and Eggs wouldn’t mind.…


….apparently still good to soft this morning at 07.40. As The hill has said, been a lovely sunny & breezy morning but that’s changed. Rain in the air but very windy. Expecting 5-10mm today.
 
Started raining about 20 mins ago but light showers, blue sky now gone and now miserable and windy. I'll keep you posted istabraq
 
….Rachel Blackmore riding Martello Sky for Lucy Wadham in Fridays handicap hurdle. 25-1 with 365 is a bit of a stand-out at this point.
 
Started raining about 20 mins ago but light showers, blue sky now gone and now miserable and windy. I'll keep you posted istabraq

And Eggs

Met Office saying the heavy stuff passed through and from here it's just showers, was it a dumping today ?
They're calling ground good to soft but that's from an inspection taken this morning at 7.40am...
 
And Eggs

Met Office saying the heavy stuff passed through and from here it's just showers, was it a dumping today ?
They're calling ground good to soft but that's from an inspection taken this morning at 7.40am...


….I’ve just walked a couple of miles to collect my grandson from nursery & it’s grim out there. Not persistent rain, but just the odd squall. There has been some heavy stuff this afternoon following a bright, sunny morning. It was more heavy showers than a deluge.

Concern is the sky is very black suggesting there’s plenty up there. A plus is the wind is so strong it’s blowing it through but it’s a cold wind so not sure if it’ll be drying anything out. Much will depend on what happens tonight & through the night.

The latest official measure I saw was good to soft at 07.30am this morning. I’d guess my garden and the grass verges are soft but having played plenty of football on the racecourse, my garden is nowhere near as lush as that.
 
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Just looking out the window now by the course eggs is right it's rained today but not heavy for too long, mainly been light showers and we did have blue sky again around 3pm, looking now its dry but the sky looks to have plenty of dark clouds with a wind still blowing strong
 
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Thanks for the updates guys.

I've listened to various podcasts today and no one seems certain about the ground on any of them, but most seem to working off the basis it'll be soft ground on day 1. Is that what you'd be looking at given the rain you've had in Liverpool?
 
Thanks for the updates guys.

I've listened to various podcasts today and no one seems certain about the ground on any of them, but most seem to working off the basis it'll be soft ground on day 1. Is that what you'd be looking at given the rain you've had in Liverpool?


….it’s so difficult to say. I was surprised it was still good to soft at 07.30 this morning. Following that it was a very bright and windy morning until just before lunch. Plent of showers since then but pretty dry these last few hours. Still very windy.

I’d guess on the soft side but much depends on tonight.
 
Sometimes things are bigger than racing.

Absolutely, but I'm struggling to see what the ban achieves. Does it protect investors who may have been damaged by whatever is going on with John Dance's firm? I can't see that. All I can see is damage to the sport and it's reputation, pain for punters and heartache for people at PN's yard who have worked hard to get the star of the show ready for the big day.
 
Absolutely, but I'm struggling to see what the ban achieves. Does it protect investors who may have been damaged by whatever is going on with John Dance's firm? I can't see that. All I can see is damage to the sport and it's reputation, pain for punters and heartache for people at PN's yard who have worked hard to get the star of the show ready for the big day.

A very similar thing happened with Labaik.

Dance obviously has questions to answer and as a result his assets are being frozen. Unfortunately, they must have BMG under that category.
 
It’s a poor situation for racing to find itself in but I would imagine that Dance is still legally part owner pending investigations, and whatever prize money BMG earns tomorrow he would be entitled to his cut.
Racing is the real loser, he would have added to what is already a great field…
 
A very similar thing happened with Labaik.

Dance obviously has questions to answer and as a result his assets are being frozen. Unfortunately, they must have BMG under that category.

Still not convinced by the logic. Surely there is much more chance of a return for investors from the horse winning a big race than there is a risk of value being lost if, god forbid, BMG ran and was seriously injured?

Maybe I'm just jaundiced by a view of regulators built up during 30 years in financial services. The FCA can show that they have taken action. The fact that it achieves the square root of FA is secondary.
 
…..very stormy through the night here in Liverpool but I didn’t hear much in the way of rain. Dark, overcast and extremely windy this morning. Fascinating to know what the going is in the next hour or so.

Update; brightened up considerably in the last 30mins, white clouds and blue sky now but still extremely blowy.
 
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Just having a stroll by the course now with the dog, as Eggs said doesn't look like we got much rain can't see many puddles, wind is very strong so may halve helped to dry a little, I can see some blue sky over the course, fingers crossed the rain stays off especially when I'm walking to the course myself later :adoration: come on Banbridge!