2023 Novice Hurdlers

[HesTheOne]

Alastor is an intriguing add to pp/betfairs supreme market @20/1.
3rd in an Italian derby, 2nd in a french listed race now trained by a certain wpm.
I'm struggling to find any mention of him in his stable tours, he does have an entry at xmas.

Definitely, seams to have flown under the radar abit the future champions hurdle entry. Came from the same sale as QDP too. If he can jump he has the speed to back it up.

 

[JackieMoon33]

Definitely, seams to have flown under the radar abit the future champions hurdle entry. Came from the same sale as QDP too. If he can jump he has the speed to back it up.

If I recall correctly he was purchased to be a dual purpose horse. I couldn’t have the sire over jumps either.

So despite the entry, I’m ooooot.

 

[CJW]

Support for Gaelic Warrior recently, I see Simon Rowlands has him backed in a article recently. Also saw mention of Gavin given him as a possible selection, any news on this?

Also is there link of mullins hinted ballymore/supreme after last years festival. Apparently one was mentioned.

Sorry if I'm repeating old top topics. Appreciate any replys. Cheers.

 

[Exar Essay]

Support for Gaelic Warrior recently, I see Simon Rowlands has him backed in a article recently. Also saw mention of Gavin given him as a possible selection, any news on this?

Also is there link of mullins hinted ballymore/supreme after last years festival. Apparently one was mentioned.

Sorry if I'm repeating old top topics. Appreciate any replys. Cheers.

Mullins said Ballymore immediately after the Boodles. So unlike Mullins to be definitive of a target that far out. Almost sounded like it was a pre-hatched plan i.e. if he doesn't win we'll go Ballymore next year.

That being said, the Stable Tours this year implied that all 3 novice hurdles are potential destinations.

 

[billymag]

Probably been said already but didnt G Warrior just got out speeded up the home straight, i couldnt have him at 2 miles in a supreme for that reason.

 

[HesTheOne]

Support for Gaelic Warrior recently, I see Simon Rowlands has him backed in a article recently. Also saw mention of Gavin given him as a possible selection, any news on this?

Also is there link of mullins hinted ballymore/supreme after last years festival. Apparently one was mentioned.

Sorry if I'm repeating old top topics. Appreciate any replys. Cheers.

Nothing from Gavin on him

 

[FinalFurlong91]

Think I'd like to see how he goes left handed before parting with any money

More interested in grangeclare west at this stage for the ballymore

 

[charlie]

Probably been said already but didnt G Warrior just got out speeded up the home straight, i couldnt have him at 2 miles in a supreme for that reason.

It looked far more like running out of gas that being out speeded. Cheltenham was Brazil's 5th start of the season last year and fitness told IMO. I think GW is the better of the two now, but its encouraging seeing Brazil running to a respectable level so far this season.

 

[Quevega]

It looked far more like running out of gas that being out speeded. Cheltenham was Brazil's 5th start of the season last year and fitness told IMO. I think GW is the better of the two now, but its encouraging seeing Brazil running to a respectable level so far this season.

The Freshness v Fitness debate.
Had GW won the boodles would that have been because he was a fresher horse ?
And Brazil had had one race too many ?

Just playing :encouragement:
All guesswork really.

Definitely wasn't outspeeded though (I guess :highly_amused
He seemed to lose the race becasue he was a bit Daft/excited or whatever.
However, Brazil didn't have the best of luck during the race either.

 

[charlie]

The Freshness v Fitness debate.
Had GW won the boodles would that have been because he was a fresher horse ?
And Brazil had had one race too many ?

Just playing :encouragement:
All guesswork really.

Definitely wasn't outspeeded though (I guess :highly_amused
He seemed to lose the race becasue he was a bit Daft/excited or whatever.
However, Brazil didn't have the best of luck during the race either.

I don't think being fresh as a 4 year old carries too much weight to be honest. Makes sense why trainers do it with seasoned campaigners that know their job, but fresh to me for a 4 year old equals inexperience which as you point out, told in the end.

 

[Lobos]

Inexperienced, first run over British Hurdles, first run for trainer, first time jockey rode him at racetrack, fitness, big field, first time at track, jumped right, made hash of last hurdle. All adds up.

 

[Quevega]

The negatives
not that inexperienced really having had 3 runs in France.
the big field and Cheltenham atmosphere or track was probably a first for 90% of the field.
And he had pole position and the best jockey and trainer helping him.
he caused the winner no end of issues and still got chinned by him.
he had plenty of time to still win after going right at the last.
he looked like he was out battled in the finish
he ran off a mark of 129 !!

I have backed him though and hope he can improve a lot. But he needs too.
not convinced with the 150 RPR but it’s encouraging that’s for sure.

 

[Lobos]

Might as well cash out then Q after that assessment.

 

[charlie]

Might as well cash out then Q after that assessment.

Took the words out my mouth :welcoming::beaten:

 

[FinalFurlong91]

Just watched the boodles back

He must've cost Brazil almost ten lengths in that race and still lost to him

Brazil got badly impeded at the 2nd hurdle, losing 4 or 5 places

Then impeded him at 3 out and badly at 2 out

Jumped markedly to the right at times

I'd definitely need to see him going left handed before thinking about him for a Cheltenham race.

He may well be very good, but if he can't jump straighter round a left handed track he will never be near his best going that way round.

 

[Lobos]

That's it, get him in the Pipe! 10/1.....pffffp....... should be at least 20's

 

[Quevega]

That's it, get him in the Pipe! 10/1.....pffffp....... should be at least 20's

As daft as it sounds
with an Irish rating of 134 and likely uk tax of around 4lb
He could be put away for the pipe for sure.
given the sort of rating it takes to win the ballymore of around 152 ish.
Hes a stone and half well in for the second year running.

Middle_Of_March will have nightmares.

be some battle with Langer Dan to see who can fuck it up the best.

 

[Lobos]

Doesn't sound daft at all. Not sure the English capper will be so lenient this time around. That said, he failed to deliver this year as you say. Mullins Novices, Hurdlers and Chasers are impossible to sort out at this stage.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

Great to see you back MoM, it was just after Gaelic Warrior got done on the line in March you went AWOL, we were fearing the worst.
Great to see you haven't lost faith too...

Cheers Ista. I ended up making a profit on the boodles last year because of the early each ways on GW. But him getting chinned was just horrific. Equally as bad as the BDD fall in the Mares Hurdle. Both of which had me doubled over on the deck near the final hurdle.

But I’m now seeing it all as a wider plan. And him getting beat that day is a sign to have me lumping on him for the ballymore this year at an even bigger price instead. And so he’s now my biggest single bet of the season. Up the Gaelic Good Ting 2.0.

 

[Middle_Of_March]

As daft as it sounds
with an Irish rating of 134 and likely uk tax of around 4lb
He could be put away for the pipe for sure.
given the sort of rating it takes to win the ballymore of around 152 ish.
Hes a stone and half well in for the second year running.

Middle_Of_March will have nightmares.

be some battle with Langer Dan to see who can fuck it up the best.

I’ve just thrown up a little bit at that thought.