Stupid Questions

[BigChaang]

If a horse is not down to the start by the race Off time.

Why the fuck do we wait for them ?
While all and sundry try and persuade the ignorant animal to get there ?

What other sports do this without penalties ?

I couldn't help but laugh at that :smile-new: . Could be a future addition to the Fez , the Running backwards to the starting line novices dash.

 

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

What’s the deal with tail wagging when whipped and why is it considered such a negative (in relation to comments on the Supreme thread following Lecales Article winning debut)?

 

[ComplyOrDie]

What’s the deal with tail wagging when whipped and why is it considered such a negative (in relation to comments on the Supreme thread following Lecales Article winning debut)?

There is a fairly long list about why a horse swishes it's tail.

This article, although not directly pointed towards the racing side of things, may help. It still applies to horses in general - Article

 

[VivaSteve]

There is a fairly long list about why a horse swishes it's tail.

This article, although not directly pointed towards the racing side of things, may help. It still applies to horses in general - Article

I was wondering that myself. Thanks for the link. I can see now why folk would have some reservations.

 

[Kevloaf]

What’s the deal with tail wagging when whipped and why is it considered such a negative (in relation to comments on the Supreme thread following Lecales Article winning debut)?

Excellent question, exactly what this thread is for.

I see COD has out up a link.


My basic answer would have been that it means the horse isn't responding positively to the whip (or not putting in more effort than before it was used)

 

[Deleted member 4957]

If a horse wags their tail during their races they are using up unnecessary energy and not concentrating on their job, some horses flash their tail in protest hen knuckle down and get on with it, but it can never be a positive....

 

[Topofthegame2021]

I can understand the argument... to my eye he did pick up the pace though? Maybe I’m blind (or looking through rose tinted glasses) :eagerness:

 

[Rhinestone_Cowboy]

Thanks all, plenty of food for thought, will be very interesting to see what happens when up in grade

 

[Kevloaf]

I got one, I got one!




Which races are on which days, and in which order for Cheltenham 2021 Festival?

I can't find what's officially moved to where.

 

[ryanh97]

I got one, I got one!




Which races are on which days, and in which order for Cheltenham 2021 Festival?

I can't find what's officially moved to where.

Supreme, Arkle, Ultima, CH, MH, Boodles, NHC

Ballymore, RSA, Coral Cup, QMCC, Cross Country, Grand annual, Bumper

Marsh, Pertemps, Ryanair, Stayers, Plate, Mares Novices, Kim Muir

Triumph, Potato, County, GC, Foxhunters, Mares Chase, Pipe

I think that's right Kev

 

[BookieBasher]

Supreme, Arkle, Ultima, CH, MH, Boodles, NHC

Ballymore, RSA, Coral Cup, QMCC, Cross Country, Grand annual, Bumper

Marsh, Pertemps, Ryanair, Stayers, Plate, Mares Novices, Kim Muir

Triumph, Potato, County, GC, Foxhunters, Mares Chase, Pipe

I think that's right Kev

I see Bet365 have the Mares Chase at 2.10pm and the Bartlett to follow at 2.50pm. Don’t know if these are the true order of races but to add a Mares Chase and not have it on terrestrial tv would seem a little odd.

 

[Kevloaf]

Supreme, Arkle, Ultima, CH, MH, Boodles, NHC

Ballymore, RSA, Coral Cup, QMCC, Cross Country, Grand annual, Bumper

Marsh, Pertemps, Ryanair, Stayers, Plate, Mares Novices, Kim Muir

Triumph, Potato, County, GC, Foxhunters, Mares Chase, Pipe

I think that's right Kev

Cheers Ryan.

I like that the GA is now the same card as the QMCC, that makes some sense.

 

[ryanh97]

I see Bet365 have the Mares Chase at 2.10pm and the Bartlett to follow at 2.50pm. Don’t know if these are the true order of races but to add a Mares Chase and not have it on terrestrial tv would seem a little odd.

Unsure BB, Hills have it one from last. If the AB was pushed back to 2.50, that would have to mean the County would be moved until 4.50?

 

[BookieBasher]

Unsure BB, Hills have it one from last. If the AB was pushed back to 2.50, that would have to mean the County would be moved until 4.50?

It’s all a bit confusing isn’t it. Either way with the annual being moved then something will have to miss out on ITVs coverage.

 

[Hurricane fly]

How often do horses actually get schooled going over fences?

hendo talks about Champ spending a couple of days with Henrietta Knight and how it’s made a world of difference. It always seems as if the majority of their “work” is just on the gallops not jumping.

i understand there is a risk of injury but surely this risk diminishes the more they practice?

Why wouldn’t you have them schooling regularly? Or do they and I’ve lost it in translation.

Not the same but I don’t imagine high jumpers practice jumping for a week a year.

 

[Deleted member 4957]

How often do horses actually get schooled going over fences?

Why wouldn’t you have them schooling regularly? Or do they and I’ve lost it in translation.

Yeah I think it has been lost in translation HF.
I have seen the Twisters yard in action and they have a hill (like the Eiger !) with about 6 fences spaced out over about 2 furlongs, similarly there are around 4/5 hurdles over the same distance, the top horses will take these (either fences or hurdles) 3 or 4 times in a work session, I'm unsure how often they do this but it's certainly regularly and I'm sure other yards will do similar...

 

[robith]

Supreme, Arkle, Ultima, CH, MH, Boodles, NHC

Ballymore, RSA, Coral Cup, QMCC, Cross Country, Grand annual, Bumper

Marsh, Pertemps, Ryanair, Stayers, Plate, Mares Novices, Kim Muir

Triumph, Potato, County, GC, Foxhunters, Mares Chase, Pipe

I think that's right Kev

The last two races being the mares chase and the MP is like Sunday at Glastonbury where after the headliner you know it's the last chance to have it big but all that's on is a load of psytrance DJs playing to wasted crusties

 

[Deleted member 4957]

Supreme, Arkle, Ultima, CH, MH, Boodles, NHC

Ballymore, RSA, Coral Cup, QMCC, Cross Country, Grand annual, Bumper

Marsh, Pertemps, Ryanair, Stayers, Plate, Mares Novices, Kim Muir

Triumph, Potato, County, GC, Foxhunters, Mares Chase, Pipe

I think that's right Kev

I don't think it has been formally decided/announced.
When they confirmed the Mares Chase would replace the nov h'cap chase they said the new race would be run on Friday, BetFred have (or did on Monday) this race quoted on Wednesday 2.50pm, where they get that from I have no idea.
If Ryan is correct the only change is the Grand Annual moves to Wed and Boodles moves to Tuesday...

 

[ryanh97]

I don't think it has been formally decided/announced.
When they confirmed the Mares Chase would replace the nov h'cap chase they said the new race would be run on Friday, BetFred have (or did on Monday) this race quoted on Wednesday 2.50pm, where they get that from I have no idea.
If Ryan is correct the only change is the Grand Annual moves to Wed and Boodles moves to Tuesday...

Yep, haven't got any confirmation I just thought I'd seen that somewhere.

 

[Pendil]

Yep, haven't got any confirmation I just thought I'd seen that somewhere.

The Bible (RP) has it as 4.50 on Friday same as you have said. Its in their Big race entries, possible entries