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2023 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
    Quais De Paris
    4g Masked Marvel - Liberalis
    Mrs S Ricci
    3-
    RPR 118h
    I think this is a lovely horse. He finished third on his only start in France over hurdles but will run in bumpers this season.

    Is this possible after already running in a hurdle race?
    Can't run in the Cheltenham Bumper, no Hurdles runs allowed.

    So Hurdles or a season in Bumpers in Ireland?
    Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 7 November 2022, 10:16 AM.
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

      Does it matter much?

      Constitution Hill started at Sandown.

      Shishkin at Newbury.

      Altior at Chepstow.

      Summerville Boy at Stratford.

      Cinders And Ashes at Ascot.

      Al Ferof at Cheltenham.

      Menorah at Warwick.

      Last 7 winners from GB, not one repeat track for starting out. As a backer I'm more concerned about Alan King not winning the race previously, personally.
      Just not somewhere you’d expect a top prospect to start off. The others you mentioned are all premier tracks apart from Stratford and that was a poor year. Maybe reading too much into it

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      • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

        Just not somewhere you’d expect a top prospect to start off. The others you mentioned are all premier tracks apart from Stratford and that was a poor year. Maybe reading too much into it
        Possibly just getting them out now that the weather/ground has changed? Been moaning all year about no rain and being unable to get them on the grass. Think we will see a lot more running at odd courses both here and in Ireland taking advantage before another dry spell.

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        • Could be a interesting one for the Tizzards in the first at Kempton today, called Tellmesomethingood.

          The Tizzards usually go down the bumper route with theirs, especially their 4 year olds, so I was a little surprised to see this one straight in over hurdles, maybe they are in a rush to get him over a fence after a novice hurdle campaign.

          He is a half brother to Invitiation Only, and sired by Walk In The Park, so has a fairly attractive profile on the breeding front, which, ultimately, is all we have to go on for now.

          The Tizzards, although a below par weekend, were in blistering form last week, so no reason to believe this one won't be ready first time up.

          I've had him added for the Supreme, he has been priced up at 100/1, which is totally understandable, given we have absolutely zilch to go on, but the Tizzards are not scared of running their better ones in the Supreme. In recent years the only time they haven't run one in the race is the year Appreciate It won it, so the year owners were not allowed to attend, I believe.

          Now, I'm not saying this guy is the second coming, far from it, but he could be one to keep an eye on for the future, whether that be hurdles or when he goes chasing.

          I've had a bet on him for today and a small one for the Supreme.

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          • Just had some of Skybets 40/1 for Absolute Notions for the Supreme.

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            • Foxfire Glow 66/1 for the Supreme on Betfair/PP. Could look huge if he comes on from that first run to be as good as Elliot seems to regard him.

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              • Originally posted by Sprinter Sacre View Post
                Foxfire Glow 66/1 for the Supreme on Betfair/PP. Could look huge if he comes on from that first run to be as good as Elliot seems to regard him.
                Ah, PP had frozen his cashout, so this being back has enabled me to cashout for something back at least. Is anyone able to get him added back to PP’s Ballymore market…?

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                • I've just noticed Luccia and Bonttay (my fancy) for the Mares Novice Hurdle are both entered in the flat race at Cheltenham on Saturday afternoon.

                  Does anyone know if either Hendo or Fergal have previous in starting them out in bumpers and going hurdling with top prospects in the same season?

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                  • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                    Shanbally Kid at 50/1 for the Albert Bartlett is one I’ve been tipping away at for the last few weeks, the style of his bumper win screamed a dour stayer & his breeding backs it’s up. I’d rather have a good e/w cut at him than take American Mike at single digits whose sire has never had a Cheltenham winner if my memory serves me correctly
                    Mullins stable tour:

                    Shanbally Kid

                    5g Presenting - Kalanisi's Lady
                    Gigginstown House Stud
                    01-
                    RPR 114b
                    He beat Polo Lounge in a bumper at Clonmel for Richard O'Brien last season. He'll go novice hurdling and it looks like he'll make up into a staying type.

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                    • Originally posted by JamieSensible View Post
                      I've just noticed Luccia and Bonttay (my fancy) for the Mares Novice Hurdle are both entered in the flat race at Cheltenham on Saturday afternoon.

                      Does anyone know if either Hendo or Fergal have previous in starting them out in bumpers and going hurdling with top prospects in the same season?
                      On first glance Henderson MNH runners have all started that season over Hurdles. Luccia has already won twice on the flat, Nickys camp do seam very keen on her alright and reported her schooling to be of high quality, perhaps its just one to introduce her this season after her setback but interesting none the less.

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                      • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                        Can't run in the Cheltenham Bumper, no Hurdles runs allowed.

                        So Hurdles or a season in Bumpers in Ireland?
                        Hurdles - see #551 previous page

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                        • There must have been some significant money for Grangeclare West, surely can't be that short in the betting from the Mullins stable tour comments alone.

                          Best price 16s with Hills for the Bartlett, and hes not ran for over a year or jumped a Hurdle.

                          Unless that horse is an absolute monster, the bookies really are taking the mick.



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                          • Originally posted by JamieSensible View Post
                            There must have been some significant money for Grangeclare West, surely can't be that short in the betting from the Mullins stable tour comments alone.

                            Best price 16s with Hills for the Bartlett, and hes not ran for over a year or jumped a Hurdle.

                            Unless that horse is an absolute monster, the bookies really are taking the mick.


                            And last year he was being aimed at the Supreme.

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                            • Originally posted by JamieSensible View Post
                              There must have been some significant money for Grangeclare West, surely can't be that short in the betting from the Mullins stable tour comments alone.

                              Best price 16s with Hills for the Bartlett, and hes not ran for over a year or jumped a Hurdle.

                              Unless that horse is an absolute monster, the bookies really are taking the mick.


                              He wasn't in the market at all last night.

                              A couple of my friends got him added him to five bookies markets, as the Mullins quote was enough to test the waters.

                              We were all very disappointed with the opening quotes.
                              Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 7 November 2022, 09:49 PM.
                              "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

                                He wasn't in the market at all last night.

                                A couple of my friends got him added him to five bookies markets, as the Mullins quote was enough to test the waters.

                                We were all very disappointed with the opening quotes.
                                At those prices and the points I made above, he's one I'm happy to stay clear of and back on the day if he turns out to be special.

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