2023 Novice Hurdlers

[Lobos]

….20-1 now.

She just won really nicely on debut over 2m 4f on heavy, not sure if they have plans to drop her in distance.

2.5 on deep ground today. Drop to 2 on spring ground may not be ideal?

[Eggs]

2.5 on deep ground today. Drop to 2 on spring ground may not be ideal?

…yep, I think MNH is 2m1f but I was thinking similar, perhaps Cheltenham isn’t on the agenda. I checked but she’s not in the a/r market so happy to have taken a bit of the 40-1 given how she travelled and jumped through the race.

Post-race comments will be interesting.

[Quevega]

I wouldn't worry about trip or ground, as stated many times, the classy ones can usually cope with most.

She's nicely bred actually, and her dams sire (Midnight;s Legend) has produced some very flexible trip wise horses recently.

The Dam (Sparky May) got within 10 lengths of the greatest mare alive.

[Lobos]

I wouldn't worry about trip or ground, as stated many times, the classy ones can usually cope with most.

She's nicely bred actually, and her dams sire (Midnight;s Legend) has produced some very flexible trip wise horses recently.

The Dam (Sparky May) got within 10 lengths of the greatest mare alive.

She didn't race against Honey did she ??

[Saxon Warrior]

….20-1 now.

She just won really nicely on debut over 2m 4f on heavy, not sure if they have plans to drop her in distance.

As an Irish stable and a 2M4F winner, they’ll probably have prime focus on the only Grade 1 MNH of the season, which is over 2M4F in April at Fairyhouse.

[Quevega]

As an Irish stable and a 2M4F winner, they’ll probably have prime focus on the only Grade 1 MNH of the season, which is over 2M4F in April at Fairyhouse.

She's only just won a maiden.
So the focus should be on winning a grade 3/listed race first.
I'd say that Irish trainers (on the whole) focus on Cheltenham above anything else.
It's the biggest shop window.
And they're generally not daft.
But I agree, in a novice mare hurdlers career then the race at Fairyhouse would be the ideal end to the season.

[Saxon Warrior]

She's only just won a maiden.
So the focus should be on winning a grade 3/listed race first.
I'd say that Irish trainers (on the whole) focus on Cheltenham above anything else.
It's the biggest shop window.
And they're generally not daft.
But I agree, in a novice mare hurdlers career then the race at Fairyhouse would be the ideal end to the season.

Absolutely the focus would be on a race vs better horses next, to see if she's any good in a black type race. (I thought I was more pedantic than you )

Not seen a race suggested yet, but the Irish race programme is thin enough to find the one or two Listed/Grade 3 choices open to a Mares Novice in a few weeks time.

The only Mares Novice ones are
* Listed Voler de Vedette - 2M3F Sunday 11th Dec
* Listed Boreen Belle - 2M Sunday 18th Dec

Probably the former (at Punchestown) given its around the midtrip.

She could take some of the Down Royal Grade 3 runners from the weekend in one of them
Magical Zoe (with a penalty), Nikini, The Model Kingdom.

Ultimately Fairyhouse for the Grade 1 over a trip that suits her better than 2M by the look of her breeding.

No reason not to give the MNH a swing at Cheltenham a go too, if she proves herself along the way.

[Kautostar]

No risk no fun ofts according to willie’s stable tour

[YoungHustler]

Quais De Paris
4g Masked Marvel - Liberalis
Mrs S Ricci
3-
RPR 118h
I think this is a lovely horse. He finished third on his only start in France over hurdles but will run in bumpers this season.

Is this possible after already running in a hurdle race?

[ToniC]

Quais De Paris
4g Masked Marvel - Liberalis
Mrs S Ricci
3-
RPR 118h
I think this is a lovely horse. He finished third on his only start in France over hurdles but will run in bumpers this season.

Is this possible after already running in a hurdle race?

Yes perfectly possible but won’t be eligible for the champion bumper. And some of the other higher profile graded bumpers I think too

[darlojim]

Quais De Paris
4g Masked Marvel - Liberalis
Mrs S Ricci
3-
RPR 118h
I think this is a lovely horse. He finished third on his only start in France over hurdles but will run in bumpers this season.

Is this possible after already running in a hurdle race?

Please ignore this, Willie obviously was tired of the stable tour by this point, he's going hurdling.

https://twitter.com/ScobieCjnr/status/1588684361070968832?t=wGw7xaRWZKrjHIwbM_DrXw&s=19

[Guinness Village]

Klitscko entered at Southwell on Friday. One I’ve been looking forward to seeing over a hurdle. Working very well. He’s one that appears to have snuck under the radar.

[ComplyOrDie]

Klitscko entered at Southwell on Friday. One I’ve been looking forward to seeing over a hurdle. Working very well. He’s one that appears to have snuck under the radar.

Backed him quite a few weeks back now for the Supreme. His bumper win was very good, considering he done a load wrong during the race. The RPR given wasn't particularly great, but it could have ended up a whole lot better had he not done so much wrong for a lot of the race.

Blue Bresil by a King's Theatre dam, so the same as Constitution Hill, albeit different dams.

If he was with Nicky he'd be shorter than 40/1 for the Supreme, for sure.

[Kautostar]

Running at Southwell though? Don’t see many supreme winners starting out there!

[ComplyOrDie]

Running at Southwell though? Don’t see many supreme winners starting out there!

Does it matter much?

Constitution Hill started at Sandown.

Shishkin at Newbury.

Altior at Chepstow.

Summerville Boy at Stratford.

Cinders And Ashes at Ascot.

Al Ferof at Cheltenham.

Menorah at Warwick.

Last 7 winners from GB, not one repeat track for starting out. As a backer I'm more concerned about Alan King not winning the race previously, personally.