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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Came back in last March so 9 months hard labour and right through the summer when all the best ones are resting up. He needed a break for sure.
    A break yes, more than 3 months off before the biggest race of his career? And if he knew a break was needed, why not plan the season so that he could take in a race closer to Cheltenham. Bazza is new to the training ranks but I feel this could be stretching things.

    If you had backed him already, would you be:

    a) More confident
    b) Less confident
    c) Unchanged
    Last edited by JackieMoon33; 30 December 2022, 11:41 AM.

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    • Really have been patiently waiting for him to run, he would be by far my biggest winner, really really hoping for a nice easy win and and showing plenty of toe

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      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
        Quais De Paris in the 2m maiden at Tramore
        Hopefully he wins nicely

        Available at nice prices for Supreme and ballymore
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        ​​​​​​​Hills only 7s any race which is terrible as he's 33s Supreme and 25s ballymore and won't have time to get enough runs for a handicap you'd think





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        • Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
          Firestep declared to run in the 2m4 Ballymore Novices Hurdle at Cheltenham on New Year's Day.

          Not been the easiest to train but hopefully retains all the ability shown in bumpers.
          Yep, still can get 33.
          That just may look quiet good soon.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Not sure what the trainer is normally like but it was proper fighting talk from him today.
            'Best Novice Hurdler in England or Ireland'
            'Still not scratched the surface with his ability '

            'Wouldnt swap him for anything '

            Super confidence. Made me want to actually back him at some stage !
            Unfortunately I’ve not backed him before he ran, but no need to rush in now if he’s not running is how I see it.
            Think that was a very good win despite a couple of iffy jumps.
            I imagine plenty of schooling before the festival.
            I think if one likes him just have to have faith in his trainer.

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            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

              The break is what bothers me most. Only two hurdles runs and he’s having over three months off. Even Nicholls doesn’t keep his that fresh! I hope it doesn’t back fire as he looks like he could be a major improver.
              Barry connell basically said Marine nationale has been on the go all summer and he wouldn't prefer the winter ground.
              Give him some time off ( until the end of Jan ?? ) and then back into training , could go straight to the Supreme .
              That's how i read it ., Jackie .

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              • Facile Vega gets a 152 RPR for his win on Tuesday.

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                • Anyone think Willie could send Ho My Lord down the same route as State Man after his fall at Leopardstown ? There was certainly a lot of confidence in him in the betting ring,County ?

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                  • Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                    Anyone think Willie could send Ho My Lord down the same route as State Man after his fall at Leopardstown ? There was certainly a lot of confidence in him in the betting ring,County ?
                    Only had the 1 run so would be surprised if he clocked up another 3 before March.

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                    • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                      A break yes, more than 3 months off before the biggest race of his career? And if he knew a break was needed, why not plan the season so that he could take in a race closer to Cheltenham. Bazza is new to the training ranks but I feel this could be stretching things.

                      If you had backed him already, would you be:

                      a) More confident
                      b) Leas confident
                      c) Unchanged
                      In terms of a bet or my bet.
                      It keeps the dream alive, and is probably partly why they've let him off for a while.

                      In terms of his chances.
                      I honestly don't think it matters a whole lot.
                      And given the connections and the performances of his horses from such a small team, I'd be quite happy he's away getting special treatment for a while
                      However, I expect one or two rivals will have garnered more experience that may help them though.

                      So....

                      C

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        Jet Powered has already had 2 Wind operations. Not sure I like that.
                        To be fair they say wind operation but there's around 15 different types,most are nothing jobs as well so while it never looks great to see W2 it does depend what type of op it was as to whether it's anything to bear in mind when backing one.

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                        • Anyone back Inneston at all? Interested to see how he gets on tomorrow against Jet Powered. I'm thinking could potentially be a Ballymore type rather than a Supreme. Gary Moore would be far from my normal starting point for either but with no real standouts in the Ballymore at the moment I'm trying to get one at a price!

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                          • I'll be chancing Klitschko against Jet Powered,glad to see a hood applied as he's been far too keen in both starts so far,he may well not be good enough tomorrow but I'll be keeping him onside as I feel there's potential there.

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                            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
                              Quais De Paris in the 2m maiden at Tramore
                              Been balloted out a few times so far.

                              Race Willie won with Saint Roi and El Fabiolo in the last few years....

                              Definitely one that somebody has been banging on about for a while

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                              • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                                Yeah he’s said it a couple of times including to Chappers on ITV today. Being given a break now, back in in Jan, the straight to the Supreme. Will dig out the quote now.

                                Edit: Heres an interview from before Xmas. https://twitter.com/racingtv/status/...uYVIyNIexRaHtw

                                and a transcript from today … https://twitter.com/roadcheltenham/s...uYVIyNIexRaHtw

                                Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                                Mentioned it after the Royal Bond and again on TV. Said he wouldn't swap him for any other horse and has more in him
                                ​​​​​​Racecourse gallop somewhere before Cheltenham.

                                https://mobile.twitter.com/RacingTV/...13748184207362

                                an interview there before Christmas saying Supreme.

                                Thanks guys, much appreciated.

                                FWIW, I know he'll go against plenty of strong trends, the trainer clearly an underdog for the race etc, but I think he's a definite player in the race!

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