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  • Originally posted by Nortons who View Post
    Is anyone remotely concerned that Chacun Pour Soi has not yet run at Cheltenham and will get his first taste of the place etc in the QMCC?

    Visibly and on paper he looks as solid as they come for this. Is he that good that lack of previous Cheltenham experience is irrelevant ?
    I wouldn’t be too concerned.

    Although he’s not ran there, I think the top notchers pretty much run anywhere imo. Similar to the top horses probably being able to win over 2m or 2 and a half.

    As HF says above he’s looked a class apart this season.

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    • It was one of two concerns I had earlier in the season, but he's come out and he looks proper class. Enough class to come over here and handle the course

      Not a worry for me now

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      • It's probably more important that the Jockey's been there enough times.

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        • QMCC shortlist after the latest forfeits stage:

          Chacun Pour Soi - unbelievably good this year. Only doubt is that he hasn't been to Cheltenham before. Miles clear of the rest on ability this season.
          Altior - Two time winner, all round legend. Doubt he has the legs now to keep up with Chacun - although would love it if he won!
          Fakir D'Oudairies - think he ran a decent race at the DRF. Can't see him overturning CPS
          Politologue - race looks stronger than last year. For all he has been in good form, difficult to see him winning again. Place at best.
          Nube Negra - Skelton seems keen on him. Potential improver - could see him in the places, potentially best of the Brits.
          Put The Kettle On - Arkle winner. Would love a good run from her. Again - slim chance of turning form around with CPS; but could equally see her chasing him home.
          Tornado Flyer - most likely runs elsewhere - not good enough over 2m but EW squeak if turning up.

          In summary, very difficult to look past CPS. I actually think he could be the easiest winner of the week in what normally turns out to be a small field affair.

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          • Originally posted by RufusFlynn View Post
            QMCC shortlist after the latest forfeits stage:

            Chacun Pour Soi - unbelievably good this year. Only doubt is that he hasn't been to Cheltenham before. Miles clear of the rest on ability this season.
            Altior - Two time winner, all round legend. Doubt he has the legs now to keep up with Chacun - although would love it if he won!
            Fakir D'Oudairies - think he ran a decent race at the DRF. Can't see him overturning CPS
            Politologue - race looks stronger than last year. For all he has been in good form, difficult to see him winning again. Place at best.
            Nube Negra - Skelton seems keen on him. Potential improver - could see him in the places, potentially best of the Brits.
            Put The Kettle On - Arkle winner. Would love a good run from her. Again - slim chance of turning form around with CPS; but could equally see her chasing him home.
            Tornado Flyer - most likely runs elsewhere - not good enough over 2m but EW squeak if turning up.

            In summary, very difficult to look past CPS. I actually think he could be the easiest winner of the week in what normally turns out to be a small field affair.
            Dunno man, if Altior won I think my TV would melt from Hendo crowing about it afterwards, giving a Father Ted style speech

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            • Originally posted by robith View Post

              Dunno man, if Altior won I think my TV would melt from Hendo crowing about it afterwards, giving a Father Ted style speech
              I've said this a few times before, so will keep it short and sweet

              Being a fan of the sport, like many on here, I think a lot of us would love to see Altior win. In a way, this race has parallels with Sprinter Sacre where he came into his race with doubts, and going up against a strong Willie Mullins favourite

              I still think Altior can run into the high 160's at cheltenham, he just loves the course and running up that hill. I expect a better performance over soft ground at cheltenham in comparsion to decent quickish ground at Kempton

              His preparation however.... hasnt been ideal, and I'm starting to think that CPS was better than UDS and that Sprinter still retained more ability than Altior.

              I backed Altior at the start of the season, putting on 10 points. I thought he was the best horse still out of these (excl CPS) whilst having questions whether CPS would manage a full season. The later has been proven now, and CPS is a strong favourite. Based on this, I was able to cash out the 10 pts (for a minimal loss), replace 5pts on NRNB just in case he doesnt turn up or goes Ryanair, and I'm saving the remaining 5 pts for the festival.

              I intent to back Altior again in-play, we all know Nico will have to ride him at some point, and it will look like Altior is struggling. I can see myself putting 0.5pt on at 20's and 0.5pts on 100 or 200. I may cashout a few 1pt once Altior just before the race, I'm sure Altior will shorten on the day. I guess I'm trying to reduce my original exposure and rely on Altior hitting big in-play figures on the exchange for a big pay out

              CPS looks stupidly good for this race and I've had to adjust my position accordingly.
              However, I would love it as a fan if Altior won this

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              • Altior coming straight here now

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                • Originally posted by ryanh97 View Post
                  Altior coming straight here now
                  Yep, you can bet your life he will have a racecourse gallop somehwere (Newbury I expect)

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                  • Should have prep'ed Altior over national fences for the QM

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                    • CPS and AI 6/1 double with sky. Max ?20 (others may have different restrictions)

                      CpS seems to be in a load of specials it and PP seem to be the ones the bookies are taking on.

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                      • Originally posted by Big Bucks View Post
                        CPS and AI 6/1 double with sky. Max ?20 (others may have different restrictions)

                        CpS seems to be in a load of specials it and PP seem to be the ones the bookies are taking on.
                        Yeah it's interesting that they're taking CPS on again. So far the boosted Skybet doubles have been:

                        Envoi/Shishkin (2/1 to 7/2)
                        CPS/Monkfish (5/1)
                        CPS/Appreciate It (3/1 to 6/1)
                        Last edited by Atlantic Viking; 15 February 2021, 09:20 AM.

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                        • Unlikely as it is, what happens if Champ wins the Game Spirit doing handstands?



                          Does he even have a Champion Chase entry?

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                          • Originally posted by Al Ferof View Post
                            Unlikely as it is, what happens if Champ wins the Game Spirit doing handstands?



                            Does he even have a Champion Chase entry?
                            No, but I think they can still supplement him, though I don't see it myself.

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                            • Originally posted by Al Ferof View Post
                              Unlikely as it is, what happens if Champ wins the Game Spirit doing handstands?



                              Does he even have a Champion Chase entry?
                              That would be hilarious.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                That would be hilarious.
                                Champ to the CC and Altior to the Ryanair, it's so obvious

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