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  • #16
    Nap - Royal Kahala
    Lay - Imperial Aura
    Ew - Midnight Shadow

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    • #17
      Nap - Envoi (unbeatable)
      Lay - Appreciate it
      E.w - Aspire Tower

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      • #18
        Nap.... Shishkin
        If the hacks at Lambourn are right that Shishkin is potentially the best Henderson has ever had then the rest better start now.

        Lay..... Paisley Park
        Failed to show up twice in 3 Festivals. Heart issue may potentially return. The new kids on the block are forming a line and two runs in a row in Heavy ground is not sensible .

        EW......Shattered Love
        If Benie fails to show then she will have several lbs in hand on her rivals added to the fact she will not carry a penalty despite being a multiple graded winner and previous Festival winner. Never been beaten by another Mare in 5 chase races. 16/1 is a steal.

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        • #19
          Nap - Envoi Allen
          EW - Roksana
          Lay - Appreciate It

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          • #20
            Nap - Envoi Allen - Mostly due to lack of opposition

            Lay - Bravemansgame - Challow Hurdle winners don't win Ballymores (this can only bite me in the arse one year his and Kevloaf will love it as he hates this trend)

            E/W - Finest Evermore (Mares Hurdle)

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            • #21
              Nap - EA
              Lay - BDD
              E/W - Third Time Lucki

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              • #22
                NAP - Envoi Allen, he was part of the banker thread last year and delivered, he’s banker material this year and looks like providing again! People will moan about the lack of opposition or he didn’t do much to win, end of the day he’s won 11 from 11 who cares if he didn’t do it crossing the line doing cartwheels. Enjoy him for what he is a potential superstar.

                Lay - Zanahiyr, the price he is now is just too short, especially when these juveniles are all maturing at different rates and some haven’t even run yet. This race throws up late starters as well. Now he might just be top class, he has looked very good but in this division I think there’s too many variables to be as short as he is now. I like the horse and have backed him any race but at his current price he’s a lay for me.

                Each Way - Saldier, easy one for me and possibly slightly bias. Do really like the horse. As I’ve said before his hurdling is the best I’ve seen this season on his seasonal debut, with JC coming out and saying he’s come out the race well bodes well (big fingers crossed) for him to have a full campaign. I’m expecting a good deal of improvement from that run should he take up the Irish Champion and then onto March. Two time grade 1 winner, is still only 7, lightly raced, what’s not to like

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                • #23
                  NAP: Monkfish - horses will avoid him I can only see Latest Exhibition troubling him. Of the big 3 (Shiskin & Envoi) he’s the best priced at 2/1

                  Lay: Easyland - too many problems so far like getting into the UK, fitness etc. I can’t see him turning up in March and if he does he won’t repeat last years victory.

                  E/W: The Glancing Queen - with so many mares at the top of the market probably not going to be there on the day (Gypsy Island, Royal Khala) TGQ may end up 2nd or 3rd Fav and still available at 14/. Huge price for a horse with so much course experience and racing experience.


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                  • #24
                    Nap - SkyAce - mares novice
                    Lay - bravemansgame - ballymore
                    e/w - my sister Sarah - Martin pipe

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                      They do this on another forum I post on and it leads to some good discussion

                      Just post your NAP
                      The horse youd be most happy to take on
                      And your nice priced E/W shout
                      Where does the discussion come in?

                      At the moment it looks like a list of strangers posting 3 horses names.


                      #FatJockey4life
                      #ScrewTheOtherForums



                      Haha - I 100% am joking, which would be much more obvious if you could see how much I was laughing. Which you can't. Cos it's written.



                      Nap - Envoi Allen - combination of being the most exciting, most rock solid, weakest opposition and fairest price of the shorties?

                      Lay - Al Boum Photo - 3x Gold Cup winners are: Arkle, Golden Miller, Best Mate and Cottage Rake. At 3/1, given the list of absolutely incredible horses that haven't done it, I don't even want him to do it (and I backed him at 33/1 for the first one )

                      Each Way - Elimay - there are quite simply not 3 mares, currently chasing, better than her.






                      Geordieboy83 - what you laying BDD in?

                      Istabraq - Lay on Appreciate It? Who do you think will beat him?

                      ComplyOrDie - Haha, absolutely right. Shittest trend/stat going.... no sense to it.

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                      • #26
                        Nap - Monkfish
                        A machine. Can’t see him beaten. Jumps beautifully and stays all day. Thought of him gets me excited! (Eggplant emoji)

                        Lay - Paisley Park
                        Hate his flat spot. Was lucky that Dickie gave TH a poor ride last time to get back on terms. Don’t like his price considering how many alternatives there are.

                        EW - Glorious Zoff - Boodles
                        Elliot plot. Won in the flat. Love the name. 33/1 I just love the idea & everything about him.

                        Last edited by Topofthegame2021; 28 January 2021, 09:53 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                          Istabraq - Lay on Appreciate It? Who do you think will beat him?
                          No idea lol !
                          I never thought he’d have the speed for a Supreme and think he’s only the price he is because of the perceived lack of competition.
                          I’m of the view one or two can/will improve and the one that does stick out for me is if Blue Lord drops back in trip.
                          I’m so hung up on the loss of (the end of) last season, so many of this seasons novice hurdllers are behind having missed their bumper debuts last Spring, I think this race has massive potential for boil over...

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                          • #28
                            Nap - Outside of the obvious - Quixilios
                            EW - Farouk
                            Lay - Meltier (place lay!)

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                              No idea lol !
                              I never thought he’d have the speed for a Supreme and think he’s only the price he is because of the perceived lack of competition.
                              I’m of the view one or two can/will improve and the one that does stick out for me is if Blue Lord drops back in trip.
                              I’m so hung up on the loss of (the end of) last season, so many of this seasons novice hurdllers are behind having missed their bumper debuts last Spring, I think this race has massive potential for boil over...
                              Fair enough, much more reasoned than I was hoping for

                              I'm actually still hopeful that Willie does have one emerge from nowhere... but time is running out.



                              I've managed to convince myself Metier has no chance of winning.... he's a Tolworth winner (terrible angle that a horse can't win), who is going on potentially to the Betfair (again, not a great angle or logical reason a horse "can't win", other than they are generally not good enough as a 'trend'!)

                              Then it's Third Time lucki who was well held in the bumper, and although he's improved for obstacles, I'd bet my last dollar than Appreciate It has improved just as much, at least!
                              Last edited by Kevloaf; 28 January 2021, 10:43 PM.

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                              • #30
                                I could easily be way off here but I’m sure there’s at least one who hasn’t shown his hand yet and will suddenly start showing some serious home form and become a big talking horse.
                                It’s a shame no-one’s got a Hills account any more as I can see the places (2nd to 7th) having multiple horses 33/1+

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