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Paul Kealy put Al Dancer up for the Supreme (and the Betfair) in his weekender column Rhinestone, that’s probably who your thinking of. Segal put Al Dancer and Mister Fisher up today as mentioned and gave Elixir De Nutz a good mention as well, basically like the rest of us he’s not really sure!
Without wishing to be pedantic I recall a lot of chat on this thread about Segal’s poor tipping record in the Supreme after he put Al Dancer up. Just had a quick look on Twitter and looks like he put him up in the Weedender in December:
Pretty sure he was 20s at the time, but strange to put him up again now at a reduced price without running since, although Annamix has flopped since then of course
Without wishing to be pedantic I recall a lot of chat on this thread about Segal’s poor tipping record in the Supreme after he put Al Dancer up. Just had a quick look on Twitter and looks like he put him up in the Weedender in December:
Pretty sure he was 20s at the time, but strange to put him up again now at a reduced price without running since, although Annamix has flopped since then of course
That does seem odd. To be honest I have no idea what he’s playing at half the time. It’s a complete mystery to me how Tom Segal still has his job tipping for the Racing Post. From 2013 – 2018 he is -557.50 down and I can’t think of many jobs where you can consistently underperform and still keep your position. In my opinion every tipster/journalist selecting horses in the Racing Post should have their current profit/loss entered next to their name. Surely the game will soon be up for Tom won’t it? I’ve noticed Tom shuns any form of social media and it’s not hard to see why. He would be mercilessly trolled for being an unprofitable and quite frankly, poor tipster.
That does seem odd. To be honest I have no idea what he’s playing at half the time. It’s a complete mystery to me how Tom Segal still has his job tipping for the Racing Post. From 2013 – 2018 he is -557.50 down and I can’t think of many jobs where you can consistently underperform and still keep your position. In my opinion every tipster/journalist selecting horses in the Racing Post should have their current profit/loss entered next to their name. Surely the game will soon be up for Tom won’t it? I’ve noticed Tom shuns any form of social media and it’s not hard to see why. He would be mercilessly trolled for being an unprofitable and quite frankly, poor tipster.
Is he really that far down? I know it’s only anecdotal, but still recall him having a max bet a year in advance on Mite Bite to win the King George at 33/1, which he then did.
I personally find Birch to be the worst tipster. He doesn’t believe in antepost, and has this arrogant taking of always focusing on some god awful handicap at Taunton over races at a graded race. He just comes across as up himself. However, based on his recent article for the RP, things clearly are not going well for him! The article was a cry for help. He even put in the £ value of his single bet losses, of which there had been many that weekend!
Is he really that far down? I know it’s only anecdotal, but still recall him having a max bet a year in advance on Mite Bite to win the King George at 33/1, which he then did.
I personally find Birch to be the worst tipster. He doesn’t believe in antepost, and has this arrogant taking of always focusing on some god awful handicap at Taunton over races at a graded race. He just comes across as up himself. However, based on his recent article for the RP, things clearly are not going well for him! The article was a cry for help. He even put in the £ value of his single bet losses, of which there had been many that weekend!
A lot of the sporting life and ATR tipsters do it, I can't see why the RP should be any different. Them ignoring the matter is just fueling the idiot twitter conspirators
Is he really that far down? I know it’s only anecdotal, but still recall him having a max bet a year in advance on Mite Bite to win the King George at 33/1, which he then did.
I personally find Birch to be the worst tipster. He doesn’t believe in antepost, and has this arrogant taking of always focusing on some god awful handicap at Taunton over races at a graded race. He just comes across as up himself. However, based on his recent article for the RP, things clearly are not going well for him! The article was a cry for help. He even put in the £ value of his single bet losses, of which there had been many that weekend!
Yes. Tom Segals numbers over the last 6 years.
Profit for 2013: 542.50
Profit for 2014: 402.00
Profit for 2015: -1296.50
Profit for 2016: 793.30
Profit for 2017: -107.70
Profit for 2018: -891.10
Cashed out my Thomas Darby Ballymore bet... sounds like he's coming here. Hard horse to weigh up imo but still think he's a fair enough price at 25/1 if on a going day.
Thomas Darby and Itchy Feet are in line to run for the yard on March 12, and have been performing well against other hopefuls for the 2m contest.
Earlier in the season Thomas Darby defeated Elixir De Nutz – since a winner of the Grade 1 Tolworth Hurdle – at Cheltenham, and then finished a head second to Didtheyleaveuoutto at Ascot.
Following a third-placed effort behind Mister Fisher at Kempton, Thomas Darby, owned by Diana Whateley, took advantage of a confidence booster at Taunton, winning easily last weekend.
Next stop will be Cheltenham for the six-year-old, despite an entry in the Betfair Hurdle at Newbury on February 9.
Murphy said on Monday: "He'll head straight there. I don't think he's done anything wrong. He doesn't want soft ground and it was soft when he was beaten at Kempton.
"Mister Fisher has franked that form and we had to give him 5lb. I think a fast-run two miles will suit Thomas Darby well."
While Thomas Darby is a general 25-1 chance for the Supreme, stablemate Itchy Feet can be backed at 40-1 with various firms and Murphy feels those odds underestimate the Kate and Andrew Brooks-owned novice hurdler.
Murphy said: "Itchy Feet won a Listed race at Kempton and then gave Elixir De Nutz a run for his money on his last start and had to give him 5lb.
"I think he's a big price and he'll have a prep run before Cheltenham. He's a 40-1 shot but he'll definitely outrun his odds."
Every year people get all excited about betfair hurdle winners for this race. They always go off short and they always find one or two that are too good. Al Dancer would not be for me for that reason. Can anyone tell me the last horse to win this race that prepped in a hcp?
Every year people get all excited about betfair hurdle winners for this race. They always go off short and they always find one or two that are too good. Al Dancer would not be for me for that reason. Can anyone tell me the last horse to win this race that prepped in a hcp?
Every year people get all excited about betfair hurdle winners for this race. They always go off short and they always find one or two that are too good. Al Dancer would not be for me for that reason. Can anyone tell me the last horse to win this race that prepped in a hcp?
Not a specific answer to your question, but 2 horses, My Tent Or Yours & Kalashnikov both ran stormers in the Supreme on the back of winning the Betfair Hurdle, though I am with you, not a race I tend to look out for the winner of this race for.
MTOY was 15/8F, Kalashnikov was 5/1, BallyAndy 3/1F, Splash of Ginge 20/1, Recession Proof 12/1, Get me out of here 4/1. All won Betfair Hurdle then were turned over, horses that ran in a handicap then run here are a big no for me. Genuinely dont know the answer but in recent times wonder who was the last horse to win the Supreme having run in a hcp.
MTOY was 15/8F, Kalashnikov was 5/1, BallyAndy 3/1F, Splash of Ginge 20/1, Recession Proof 12/1, Get me out of here 4/1. All won Betfair Hurdle then were turned over, horses that ran in a handicap then run here are a big no for me. Genuinely dont know the answer but in recent times wonder who was the last horse to win the Supreme having run in a hcp.
Ive backed a few that arent going to get near the race unfortunately ( sizing pottsie, Quick Grabham, Rathhill)
But the three im left with that i like are Angels Breath (if hes as good as they vibes he will take this), Klassical Dream and Vison D'honneur (unfortunately didnt get fancy prices like some of on here, but hes likely to be Gordons number one so he will be a good deal shorter on the day)
Sorry also backed Eptante 1pt for this and she is unlikely to go here
Apologies for asking again but got no response and surprised someone hasn't an opinion/heard anything , Rouge Vif now i know he shouldn't be anywhere near the head of this market before anyone says so. However i can't even see him priced up anywhere have they said there keeping him low key or something? I see he's entered up Friday in a race he could potentially win so find it surprising he's not priced up anywhere?
Did you get something sorted out , Outlaw , only i just saw Rouge vif on Sky bet @ 25-1. ??.
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