Cheltenham Gold Cup - 2019.

[Toffees]

Coney Island 66/1 NRNB well worth a punt IMO. Pretty much under the radar this year, but a pleasing return. No doubt he will strip fitter today. He was 25/1 pre March last year too.

[Istabraq]

Very good renewal of the big 3m chase at Leopardstown today, should give us a better guide to this years Irish challengers.
Kemboy and Monalee look the value...

[bobbyvalentino]

Surprising amount of support for Monalee today. Will take a preemptive 40/1 NRNB

[jack1092]

Happy enough with the 4/1 on R2R for today, have to admit though i really fear Shattered Love.

[Hurricane fly]

Kev,

Native River also didn’t win the Gold cup the year he won the Welsh National. I’d say he improved again the year after with the focused approach. This is a bit similar to the conversation about Frodon, all top class horses should be able to win these handicaps because of inflated ratings from running in other handicaps.


For me I wouldn’t back EE with counterfeit.

14 lengths to find on Percy for a start.

His Thomas Patrick form is sinking like a stone every time TP runs, and you could even say all he’s done is confirm the RDT difference from his 13 length beating in Feb.

I took the same view with Total Recall last year, winning staying handicaps and graded Class 1s are different animals, now maybe last years was a top class renewal and this years isn’t, but I think you are playing for a place and I imagine you could get offered better than 5/1 as a special

[Kevloaf]

Kev,

Native River also didn’t win the Gold cup the year he won the Welsh National. I’d say he improved again the year after with the focused approach. This is a bit similar to the conversation about Frodon, all top class horses should be able to win these handicaps because of inflated ratings from running in other handicaps.

It's not the same as Frodon, the extreme test of the Gold Cup compared to a C&D handicap chase and the Ryanair isn't the same thing.

For me I wouldn’t back EE with counterfeit.

14 lengths to find on Percy for a start.

I'd have no issue with Percy beating him
No argument from me that Percy is the one to beat and 40/1 about Presenting Percy was a better 40/1 shot.

His Thomas Patrick form is sinking like a stone every time TP runs, and you could even say all he’s done is confirm the RDT difference from his 13 length beating in Feb.

It is the way he stays on so well, that makes me think he could feature in this years Gold Cup... not his form line with Thomas Patrick. It's visual.

Plod
Plod
Plod

I took the same view with Total Recall last year, winning staying handicaps and graded Class 1s are different animals, now maybe last years was a top class renewal and this years isn’t, but I think you are playing for a place and I imagine you could get offered better than 5/1 as a special

I don't think you're getting my point.

Total Recall wasn't/isn't a dour stayer, he was well handicapped to win the Hennessy/Ladbroke Trophy.

Elegant Escape will be off the bridle, and he'll keep running, and running, and running. Exactly like Native River and Lord Windemere and Synchronised did.

I don't even need to look up the horses that've placed in a Gold Cup - they are absolutely littered with plodders.

[Kevloaf]

I should probably add..... I have/am making a book for this race, so if I was only backing one horse - it wouldn't be Elegant Escape.

[Hurricane fly]

Lord Windermere won a very poor renewal

As has been mentioned before Synchronised won a Lexus and Native River has won 2 Denman chases. They had actual graded form aswell as being real stayers.

Who’s the best horse Elegant Escape has beaten? Black corton?


I’ve no doubt that EE could stay on, but he will do well to be staying on from 10 lengths back

[Quevega]

You've both outstayed me with this EE chat.
I've pulled up, nosebleed.

FWIW.
Lord Windermere (rated 152 ), did not win a poor renewal, but the overly strong pace suited the dour stayers that day. As is sometimes the case.

[Istabraq]

Happy enough with the 4/1 on R2R for today, have to admit though i really fear Shattered Love.

At this meeting last year Shattered Love and Monalee clashed in the 3m G1 novice chase, Monalee fell before they started getting serious but he was sent off Evs that day, Shattered Love won at 10/1.
Read into that what you will...

[ryanh97]

Very very good win for Kemboy there. Well done Archie

[ComplyOrDie]

Congrats Archie

[boopa]

Got a good one there Archie.

[bobbyvalentino]

Archie, could have made it a bit more clear you were hiding a monster

[TimRiggins]

Congratulations, Archie!

Great performance.