Cheltenham 2017 Antepost Bets

[Kevloaf]

That's very interesting. I've done it a couple of times but only on things that are short that I don't fancy putting a lot on, on a random Saturday.

That must be why you're called Faugheen machine then haha. You should be the Autumn_Faugheen_Machine haha

[Faugheen_Machine]

That's why he's my favourite ever racehorse

[mayo]

Yeah, I do one most weekends. I had a right lift a couple of years ago - had the autumn double in a treble with Faugheen in his champion hurdle year.

Its hard to place a Cheltenham ante post yankee this far in advance and have them all turn up on the day. Anything I fancy at the weekend generally gets put in some sort of multiple with a horse or two for Cheltenham.

I like that approach FM - good to get to March with some live ones. Been a bad antepost year with me so far- altior for Champion hurdle and Barters for RSA in a lot of lines.

[billymag]

Kev from the owners reports Champers main target is the RSA, things dont always go to plan as we know so he could go down the 4 miler. He looks a bit overpriced in the RSA to especially when you consider the record of horses in the top 4 of the Albert Bartlett the year before. While on the subject of Champers, in yesterdays race, does anyone know how or why Duelling banjos had an official chase mark of 135. He has only had one run over fences prior to yesterday where he fell at the first. The mark is the same as his hurdling mark and he doesnt actually look that exposed over hurdles either!! I thought before the race the mark looked very strange and now having seen him run it looks even more ridiculous or it could be Champers on Ice is a superstar!!!

[Leman14]

It does indeed seem like we are all thinking along the same lines.... or putting forward such a strong case that we all follow each other

My Cheltenham book thus far (53 pts - not all covered below...)

Supreme
Moon Racer, 1pt @ 16/1
Jenkins, 1pt @ 14/1

Arkle
Le Prezien, 1pt @ 20/1 (missed the good prices on Altior - will add to multiples nearer the time)

Champion Hurdle
Yanworth, 1pt @ 16/1 (thought that this had gone, but now looks like I may get a run for my money!)

4 miler
Champers on Ice, 1 pt @ 25/1
Wotzizname, 1 pt @ 50/1

RSA
Alpha Des Obeaux, 2 pts @ 7/1

Bumper
Carter McKay, 1 pt @ 25/1

JLT
Tombstone, 1pt @ 20/1
O O Seven, 1pt @ 16/1

Ryanair
GLV, 1pt @ 33/1
Taquin Du Seuil, 1pt @ 16/1

World Hurdle
Ballyoptic, 1pt @ 25/1, 1pt @ 16/1
Rawnaq, 1pt @ 20/1

Triumph
Defi Du Seuil, 1pt @ 14/1

Albert Bartlett
Claimantakinforgan, 1pt @ 25/1

Gold Cup
Coneygree, 2pts @ 14/1
Thistlecrack, 3pts @ 8/1
Valseur Lido, 1pt @ 14/1

I've lost 6 pts to Barters Hill and Sprinter Sacre, but relatively happy with my position otherwise...

Gutted that I've missed good prices on Altior and UKWIMG, but you lose some, you lose some

[billymag]

Yeah you cant back them all but you look like youve got a really strong hand to go to war with at the moment and only 6pts down and all looking ok!!

Ok hear goes:

7pts down already with horses that cant run coz of retirement or injury and Ive backed Kotkikova 2pts EW for the mares and im very sceptical about her running and ive almost given up on her, but fingers firmly crossed!!

Ok 26pts on accas (Doubles, Trebles, Patents, Yankees!!) Too many to list hear but they all look ok, as they always do at this time of year, its March that they dont look so good!!

To win any Race
3pt Win Aux ptit Soins 12/1 (not looking great)
3pt Win Blow by Blow 14/1
1pt win Yorkhill 7/2
1pt win VVM 11/4

Supreme Novices
4pt win Jenkins 25/1
1pt EW Melon 20/1
2pt Win Moon Racer 16/1
0.5pt EW Moon Racer 7/1
0.5pt EW Capitanie 33/1
2pt Win Peace News 20/1
1pt Win Peace News 75/1
5pt win Crack Mome 25/1

Arkle
5pt win 5/1 Altior
1pt EW Identity Thief 20/1
0.5pt EW Dont Touch It 33/1
5pt win Min 8/1

Champion Hurdle
2pt EW MTOY 33/1
1pt EW Yorkhill 20/1
1pt Win Annie Power 10/3
2pt Win Faugheen 11/4
1pt EW Sceua Royal 33/1
1pt EW Yanworth 16/1
(layed Altior to win 1pt at 14/1)

Mares
1pt win VVM 5/1
1pt win Apples Jade 5/1

Neptune
2pt EW Invitation Only 25/1
1pt EW Death Duty 25/1
4pt Win Robin Roe 20/1
2pt Win Lough Derg Spirit 25/1

RSA
1pt win Champers on Ice 33/1
1pt EW Champers on Ice 33/1
1pt win Disko 25/1
1pt EW Alpha Des Obeaux 8/1
1pt Win Bellshill 14/1

Queen Mother
1pt EW Fox Norton 20/1

Bumper
2pt EW Carter Mckay 25/1
2pt EW Getabird 25/1

JLT
1pt win Aux Ptit Soins 17/1 (not looking good)
0.5pts EW Dont touch it 33/1
1pt EW American Tom 25/1
1pt win American Tom 25/1
0.5pts EW Charbel 33/1

Ryanair
0.25pts EW Dodging Bullets 33/1
1pt EW Gods Own 25/1

World Hurdle
0.5pts EW Shaneshill 14/1
0.5pts EW UKWIMHarry 25/1
0.5pts EW Rawnaq 33/1
0.25pt EW Lil Rockafella 25/1
0.5pt Win Lil Rocakafella 37/1
1pt EW Jezki 14/1

Mares Nov
2pt win Camelia De Cotte 12/1

Triumph
1pt EW Demi Du Seuil 20/1

Albert Bart
2pt EW Invitation Only 25/1
1.5pts Win Westend Story 20/1
1pt EW Death Duty 16/1

Gold Cup
1pt EW Minella Rocco 50/1 (not looking good hope hes ok after that heavy tired fall)
0.2pt Win Three Musketeers 200/1
1.5pts Win Zabana 50/1
0.5pts EW More of That 40/1 (actually this one should of gone on the losers pile really)
0.5pts EW Djakadam 16/1
0.5pts EW Coneeygree 10/1

Also got a 4pt Double on Virat Kohli to Top Score for both teams in the current series against England and Thistelcrack to win the Gold Cup the double pays 21.5/1 .

And thats it, for the record on the day if the prices are shorter ill be laying the horse to get my stake back so although ive a lot of points down ill be trying to get as many back on the day. So they just need to get there now and win a few races on the way.

I get that to 156.7 pts staked, oh gosh!!!! What can possibly go wrong!!!!!

[Leman14]

Some very good prices there Billymag!
To have only dropped 7 points (confirmed) thus far is a good effort. Granted, some more will fall by the wayside, but that's just how it is.

[jono]

Kev from the owners reports Champers main target is the RSA, things dont always go to plan as we know so he could go down the 4 miler. He looks a bit overpriced in the RSA to especially when you consider the record of horses in the top 4 of the Albert Bartlett the year before. While on the subject of Champers, in yesterdays race, does anyone know how or why Duelling banjos had an official chase mark of 135. He has only had one run over fences prior to yesterday where he fell at the first. The mark is the same as his hurdling mark and he doesnt actually look that exposed over hurdles either!! I thought before the race the mark looked very strange and now having seen him run it looks even more ridiculous or it could be Champers on Ice is a superstar!!!

I hadn't noticed that about the rating but yeah no idea how that was calculated!? I have no doubt Pipe is initially targeting COI at the RSA and saw him reiterate that before the race yesterday but I do personally think he'll fall just short of top class so i'm hoping they'll look to go down the 4 miler route after Christmas time as for me the further he goes the better he will be - bundles of stamina. I think he just gets done for pace against top class opposition.

Liking these bets billy and Leman. It's good to see we've all got the large part of our bets in place. Looking at these lists I feel like my 19 points is a little modest now...should add some more!

Leman - you have Claimantakinforgan down for the Albert Bartlett - any word on strong opinion on him going down that route? I'm really keen on Lough Derg Spirit this season and this fella could factor in his target seeing as they are both with same owners and trainer.

[Leman14]

Leman - you have Claimantakinforgan down for the Albert Bartlett - any word on strong opinion on him going down that route? I'm really keen on Lough Derg Spirit this season and this fella could factor in his target seeing as they are both with same owners and trainer.[/QUOTE]

Nothing specific. I read somewhere (possibly One Jump Ahead?) that he would be more suited by 20-24f.
At the time of placing the bet, he was only quoted for AB, so I jumped on ��

[MrMcGoldrick]

I've made good money for the last 3 years courtesy of Vautour, his untimely death has made a hole in my portfolio this time around, plus robbing the fez of a wonderful horse, however I've been feeding money onto the Identity thief/Coneygree ew double, quite keen on this if they both get there

[TimRiggins]

Not long to go now, and I'm absolutely buzzing for another week in the sun, with feet up watching the best 4 days of the year

Thought I'd done ok with 3 months to go, but some of you lads have smashed it right out of the park with those books!

[cwright23]

Lads all these books look like they should in March!! Think we've all talked ourselves into more bets than we should me included!! If all goes well, the bookmakers will be trying to shut this forum down !!

[Kevloaf]

billy - I'd swap my 201 pts for your 160 odd I think... some cracking prices there!

cwright - I love the idea of the bookies spending time and money trawling through these forums and banning us all haha We'd have to go underground!

Very pleased to see Rawnaq popping up too, still 33s available, fantastic!

[Faugheen_Machine]

Rawnaq if a huge price on the exchanges Kev. You'll get 100/1+

[Kevloaf]

Rawnaq if a huge price on the exchanges Kev. You'll get 100/1+

I'll go and clear that up tonight!