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Weather Watch 2026

Ray said:
The geezer was watering it last week what a plank hes got form for this aswell now
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Don't think he's been watering the course mate, they couldn't even get the machinery on to cut the grass cause it was that soft.
 
I think i got it wrong or heard wrong then! But that wednesday a couple of years ago he had a mare and my pocket hasnt forgiven him
 
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Weather that bad guys? Feel sorry for me. 21C full sun but in a bar to watch the racing tee hee
 
soft (heavy in places) is official going for supreme
 
As I said earlier, the odds should be based on going stick readings.
 
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Just watching in the know

Turftrax say 4.4 or lower is heavy

Going stick was 3.7

Absolute amateur hour
 
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FinalFurlong91 said:
Just watching in the know

Turftrax say 4.4 or lower is heavy

Going stick was 3.7

Absolute amateur hour
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It takes the piss to a whole other level.
I accept there are some borderline calls where subjectiveness is needed over the going stick, but this was categorically heavy ground from the start and not stating as such means either the going stick is pointless, the clerk is incompetent, or they are just downright lying to reach a quota. Whichever one it is, and I have my suspicions regarding which it is, just isn't acceptable for a multimillion pound professional sport - simple as.
 
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FinalFurlong91 said:
And if they aren't there shouldn't even be a market to bet on it

realistically Bollinger has been robbed of winnings
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Yep, a little frustrated.

I had an equal amount on both heavy and soft (@7/4) as it was a great price as a cover bet, and i highlighted this well over a week ago. A touch gutted.

The problem is,if they declare heavy half hour before the race, trainers pull horses and Cheltenham really don’t need this.

A moral victory, if anything.

And two fingers up to those who thought I was stupid on betting on grass growing.

Not a chance. It was a market ripe for plundering.
 
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Bollinger said:
Yep, a little frustrated.

I had an equal amount on both heavy and soft (@7/4) as it was a great price as a cover bet, and i highlighted this well over a week ago. A touch gutted.

The problem is,if they declare heavy half hour before the race, trainers pull horses and Cheltenham really don’t need this.

A moral victory, if anything.

And two fingers up to those who thought I was stupid on betting on grass growing.

Not a chance. It was a market ripe for plundering.
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I'll bite here - wasn't sure if I was going to cos your posting style makes me think you're a WUM - but since you keep, erroneously, referring to a post I made (for about the fourth time today), I'll engage in good faith and spell it out for you to hopefully put a stop to this.

I made a joke (a humorous light hearted comment) on how obsessed we are with Cheltenham that we were betting on the weather. This was indicated by my post ending with "haha". This indicates laughter, the type someone would make after hearing a joke - alluding to its light hearted nature. It wasn't in reply to you, didn't mention you.

You replied with an absolute diatribe taking this incredibly personally (I would say the lady doth protest too much, however I'm not totally sure you actually believe what you post on here). I replied saying that it was a joke, and left my studs in by saying "enjoy betting on grass" cos of the disproportionate nature of your response. I'm only human.

You have subsequently posted about this (and about what massive stakes you backed on it, a theme in your posts which does make me a smell the aroma you might get beneath a bridge) repeatedly. Please stop, it's so boring!

I'm sorry your bet lost cos I'd rather all money be liberated from its bookmaker overlords and I'm annoyed at myself for giving you the reaction I feel you're after, but there's only so many times I can read a disingenuous dig at me for the only thing I'm good at on here; raising a chuckle.

But now we'll come to the crux - with it laid out incredibly plainly this time, if you continue to wilfully misread my posts on here, I'll know you're not a serious actor and can go about what I probably should've done here, and ignore you
 
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Bollinger said:
Yep, a little frustrated.

I had an equal amount on both heavy and soft (@7/4) as it was a great price as a cover bet, and i highlighted this well over a week ago. A touch gutted.

The problem is,if they declare heavy half hour before the race, trainers pull horses and Cheltenham really don’t need this.

A moral victory, if anything.

And two fingers up to those who thought I was stupid on betting on grass growing.

Not a chance. It was a market ripe for plundering.
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That’s really unlucky and a tad unfair it seems.
Personally I would forget punting on the ground and use that money on finding horses to give you much more punting pleasure.
Respect it’s each to their own though.
 
I’m sure whoever first thought of laying prices for opening day ground had the same kind of thing in mind as snow on Christmas Day. I’m sure it was never meant to be a serious market scrutinised for betting purposes and more of a fun kind of thing. Had this market not existed we would only have cared about the going stick, the time of the first race etc rather than the official going description provided by the clerk.

Everybody knows how the firms determine the going for this market. There has been a lot of transparency for this meeting, much much more than say royal ascot or goodwood or any other race meeting or festival. I’d be surprised if any of us weren’t pretty sure what to expect in terms of how the track would ride come flag raise for the supreme and that is by far the most important thing and I think everything else is coloured by the emergence of this market. Id say it’s buyer beware for this market and if you still want to play fair enough but you do so with your eyes wide open.
 
Rooster Booster said:
There has been a lot of transparency for this meeting, much much more than say royal ascot or goodwood or any other race meeting or festival.
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Have to disagree with this specific part and its one of my biggest issues with this year.
The lack of Goingstick readings on a day to day basis is vastly out of line with previous years and in particular Royal Ascot where I've still got a spreadsheet somewhere with daily Goingstick readings for the five days before day 1 for multiple years of racing. Updating the clerks description of the course on a daily basis isn't good enough now as far as I'm concerned but agree with eyes wide open and fun market aspects of your post.
 
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Odin said:
Have to disagree with this specific part and its one of my biggest issues with this year.
The lack of Goingstick readings on a day to day basis is vastly out of line with previous years and in particular Royal Ascot where I've still got a spreadsheet somewhere with daily Goingstick readings for the five days before day 1 for multiple years of racing. Updating the clerks description of the course on a daily basis isn't good enough now as far as I'm concerned but agree with eyes wide open and fun market aspects of your post.
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What do connections do, just phone up the Clerk every day, if they too can't get the updates?

With everything else going on, small fields, prize money, Mullins dominance, this issue will most likely not get much traction unless some of the media types make a fuss. Lydia Hislop probably the best bet to raise it.
 
ITV saying the first race ran soft towards the side of good!


Anyone know how the second looked?
 
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