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Triumph Hurdle 2018

So I've got a little over 25% and you can have the rest. Im happy with those odds. Shall we say £100?

you've just had 3 trials at the weekend. There's alot to come out the bet you want is ridiculous for the fact being I can still back demopolis at 33/1 saldier 40/1 style de garde 40/1 melody of scotaland 40/1 ..... at the end of there races coming up. Likewise stormy ireland who just ran and 50s available if you was fast.
So evens would make no difference to me what so ever. Only taking a percentage of my profit if one of the ones ay the head of the market iv already backed at those odds obliges.
 
I just thought that as you had 75% of the field yet to race evens was a good bet for you with your calculations. You can always back talking horses that haven't run at long odds. Take We Have a Dream at 33/40s before he obliged yesterday now 8s. You can only make a book on what you've seen so far. With all these so-called stars yet to come out long odds could soon contract significantly. You're wise enough not to take the wager as you probably know deep down that the winner has already been out. stat or no stat. time will tell.
 
I just thought that as you had 75% of the field yet to race evens was a good bet for you with your calculations. You can always back talking horses that haven't run at long odds. Take We Have a Dream at 33/40s before he obliged yesterday now 8s. You can only make a book on what you've seen so far. With all these so-called stars yet to come out long odds could soon contract significantly. You're wise enough not to take the wager as you probably know deep down that the winner has already been out. stat or no stat. time will tell.

QUOTE=doctorwu;48634]I just thought that as you had 75% of the field yet to race evens was a good bet for you with your calculations. You can always back talking horses that haven't run at long odds. Take We Have a Dream at 33/40s before he obliged yesterday now 8s. You can only make a book on what you've seen so far. With all these so-called stars yet to come out long odds could soon contract significantly. You're wise enough not to take the wager as you probably know deep down that the winner has already been out. stat or no stat. time will tell.[/QUOTE]

With all due respect there not talking horses the forms there plain and simple to see at auteuil. We have a dream is well held.
Deep down honest truth after the weekend id say 50/ 50 we have seen the winner. Apple's shakira/ stormy ireland/ espoir d'allen. But I'm well aware I can get far bigger odds than even money by backing the dangers myself.
My honest idea of the winner.


Saldier worries me because I can't get the 40s and he will be hyped up to high heaven into single figures when he wins his maiden juvenile. And id have missed that price nothing to do with form seen.

Form in the book. Shoot out between Apple's shakira / style de garde / demopolis/ espoir d'allen/ melody of scotland/ sao / stormy ireland

Jp has 4 of them and they're all set to lose there novice status is melody of scotland injured? As the plan was to run her at ascot in the fillies juvenile listed race . But she wasn't entered she is however very good. . She has been entered previously.
Style de garde out in the week so we will see, is be assuming reasonably that he's better than we have a dream.
Demopolis I'm only assuming he's sound and ready to come out at some point his form is good was well on top of we have a dream who was held up and finished his race off reasonably well.
Sao' s form is very good also finished well in front of we have a dream with nice horses just behind him, and the forms worked out very well. I have been to nicholls owners day and rhey were hyping act of valour right up about the piece of work he did at the time. Whether he ran true to running at the weekend I have no idea. Espoir dallen aqps form has worked out well. Apple's shakira has done her job very very well. What has she beaten I'm not sure but I'd be convinced she's better than we have a dream.

That s my honest opinions in my head.
 
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Empreinte Reconce entered in Bumper on 20th Dec

Could be one for the Aintree bumper against her own sex. Bit of an ask to send her off a light weight against the geldings at this stage of he career. Id assume they will rwtain her novice status and target the mares novice next season. Rather than going the juvenile route. Unless they take the same path as let's dance and throw her in the graded races. If she dosent win she obviously would still have her status. But she looks a fillie of great potential so you would want to take it fairly easy.
 
I just thought that as you had 75% of the field yet to race evens was a good bet for you with your calculations. You can always back talking horses that haven't run at long odds. Take We Have a Dream at 33/40s before he obliged yesterday now 8s. You can only make a book on what you've seen so far. With all these so-called stars yet to come out long odds could soon contract significantly. You're wise enough not to take the wager as you probably know deep down that the winner has already been out. stat or no stat. time will tell.

Interesting one I forgot to mention style de garde last ran on the 12th November in France. And all the others have ran (this french season) in France so would that come under the stats as already been out? If so then they've almost all been out bar saldier.
 
French form doesn't apply to the stats Scooby. The last 5 winners have all been out in Britain or Ireland by December end.
 
Anybody confirm Jared Sullivan has bought Whetstone?

He has stormy ireland, change neige, eoline jolie and msassa who was only 3/4L behind tunis pol/ spinnozar who are very good.

Just checked everywhere he deffinately dosent have whetstone. She isn't on any exportation list to leave France .
 
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Keep an eye on style de garde tomorrow. Currently 40/1 has every reason to confirm his placing infrony of we have a dream. Goes for the same race top notch made his juvenile debut in. And in expecting a bloodless victory under a penalty.
 
Style de Garde is a handsome three year-old*son of Kapgarde, who we went to*€190,000 to secure following an impressive win over hurdles at Strasbourg: out-jumping and galloping his rivals in what was only his second career start.* He is the first foal out of a smart race mare, Anowe de Jelois, who herself won five times, and by one of the leading French National Hunt stallions in Kapgarde.* Since retiring to stud he has been responsible for a number of Black Type horses including the dual Graded winner Garde le Victoire and the prolific Grade 1 winning chaser Milord Thomas.
 
He has stormy ireland, change neige, eoline jolie and msassa who was only 3/4L behind tunis pol/ spinnozar who are very good.

Just checked everywhere he deffinately dosent have whetstone. She isn't on any exportation list to leave France .

Ok Scooby, he has bought another 3yo recently I believe? Is it any of those you have mentioned
 
Ok Scooby, he has bought another 3yo recently I believe? Is it any of those you have mentioned

Eoline jolie the recent one at arqana she's a winner but it looks a weaker race the close 3rd been beat 20 lengths since. . Jp bought a better one in ellimay

Stormy ireland / msassa would look the best 2 of his by my eye on previous runs.
 
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That will do. Good performance won as expected. Took the 40s
 
A nice performance Scooby. I'm surprised 33/1 is still available.
 
A nice performance Scooby. I'm surprised 33/1 is still available.

So am I but it's a midweek race. And auteuil form dosent seem to be popular over here. Put we have a dream in that race. And style de garde would be close to fav.
 
Roll on to msassa at the weekend and I'll keep collecting the big prices on the ones the stats say can't win.
 
Scooby,
Having your finger on the pulse with the juveniles have you got Falcas covered, and if so at what price. I can't get a price for the horse. Mitchouka has solid form but Kennedy has chosen Falcas. I'd like him covered just in case he's very good.