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Supreme Novices Hurdle 2020

SeanRock said:
PP & Betfair have pushed Malone Road out to 16/1. Biggest price across the board. Wouldn’t fill you with confidence given Gordon’s connections with Betfair.
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And Envoi pushed out in Ballymore.
 
SeanRock said:
PP & Betfair have pushed Malone Road out to 16/1. Biggest price across the board. Wouldn’t fill you with confidence given Gordon’s connections with Betfair.
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The thing I don't get though is how no one interviewing connections are asking about the horse? Everyone is being kept in the dark about him
 
darlojim said:
The thing I don't get though is how no one interviewing connections are asking about the horse? Everyone is being kept in the dark about him
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Yeah, weird. Almost as if he doesn't exist.
 
On the verge of cashing everything out on Envoi Allen and just putting it all back on 'any race', will take a slight hit on amounts returned, but no stress on worrying about target!
 
darlojim said:
PP & BF cut Envoi Allen to 6s for this race now
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There you go. Elliot has obviously thought - I could wait and see what's what in March but why? I'll make a firm and fast decision on all my horses' targets today - the 13th November. These bookies are slippery chaps. They'll tie you in knots if you're not careful. If you're really confident about your fancy being fit and well in 5 months time and, dare I say it, travelling over well and eating and drinking up, do 'any race' and save yourself a ride on the bookie-go-round!
 
Just changed one bet to 'any race', feel dirty taking 11/4 so far out, but I can't be dealing with the stress if checking every 5 minutes, not with my first born on the way also, time will be limited.
 
I’d still be confident Envoi Allen goes for the Ballymore.
 
I’m happy with the position I’ve got on envoi Allen for the ballymore didn’t think his hurdling was fast or slick enough for the supreme would have a better chance over an extra few furlongs mick fiz said he’s a ballymore horse don’t be fooled by the numbers and cashing in this early
 
Arkle said:
I’m happy with the position I’ve got on envoi Allen for the ballymore didn’t think his hurdling was fast or slick enough for the supreme would have a better chance over an extra few furlongs mick fiz said he’s a ballymore horse don’t be fooled by the numbers and cashing in this early
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You didn't think his hurdling was fast or slick enough? He was lightning quick over them
 
I still think he wins the Ballymore, but I just cba with the jiggerypokery, so just cashed the profit and put it on any race
 
Looks bad news for Malone Road drifting like a barge. Looks like he could be out for the season. One horse that has caught me eye Flinteur Sacre full brother to Sprintre 33s have had a little Dabble hopefully it will run soon.
 
Liam301287 said:
One horse that has caught me eye Flinteur Sacre full brother to Sprintre 33s have had a little Dabble hopefully it will run soon.
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Saw his name bandied about on Twitter, JP owns and the stable lad who took care of Sprinter is looking after this one. Definitely one in the notebook.
 
Arkle said:
I’m happy with the position I’ve got on envoi Allen for the ballymore didn’t think his hurdling was fast or slick enough for the supreme would have a better chance over an extra few furlongs mick fiz said he’s a ballymore horse don’t be fooled by the numbers and cashing in this early
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What were you watching ?
And Mick Fitzgerald ?
agree on the don't be fooled by the numbers though.
 
No surprise bookies are cutting Envoi Allen for the Supreme if they know Malone Road is out (which they shouldn’t know before the public but that’s another matter altogether); when the news breaks punters will be looking to get EA onside so they are just getting a step ahead, doesn’t mean a decision has been made
 
I suppose what it would mean for ENVOI ALLEN (if Malone Road is missing) is that EA wouldn’t be certain to run in the Ballymore to avoid Malone Road. Gordon would be free to run him in either the Supreme or the Ballymore, which would be more a consideration of opposition, ground and Gordon’s other runners for each race. It could then be more a 50/50 decision and EA’s price may level out between the two races.
 
Hamptonfox said:
I suppose what it would mean for ENVOI ALLEN (if Malone Road is missing) is that EA wouldn’t be certain to run in the Ballymore to avoid Malone Road. Gordon would be free to run him in either the Supreme or the Ballymore, which would be more a consideration of opposition, ground and Gordon’s other runners for each race. It could then be more a 50/50 decision and EA’s price may level out between the two races.
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This seemed obvious to me when he won his maiden the other week.
some disagreed.
 
P/Power 20/1 Envoi Allen straight after his win and they held that price for a couple of days completely against market sentiment, now 6/1 what does P/P rely know?
 
What i dont understand is why hasnt anything been said by the racing press. They are taking the piss out of the punters just as much as the bookies and trainer of Malone Road. Complete piss take in my book.
 
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