Stayers Hurdle 2020

[TCH29]

I was so close yesterday to doing the mares 'Runaround' treble. Didn't bother.

Think PP & Betfair were best prices.
Laurina - Mares 10-1
BDD - stayers 14-1
Honey - Champ 7-1

Now BDD 5-1 stayers.

FWIW,
If Paisley gets beat at the weekend then BDD takes another step closer to running here.

Pretty sure Willie's weighing up the Mares without Benie, especially if Honey going Champion hurdle.
He'd fancy beating Roksana with any of his others.

If Laurina don't run well at Dublin in the Flogas I'd say she's running in one of the staying hurdles too.

EXACTLY my thought process this evening, Q. Very feasible. Would be classic Mullins.

 

[Kevloaf]

Agree. Everyone on here needs to take a deep breath and repeat after me:

Willie goes for the easiest race.
Willie goes for the easiest race.
Say it with me. Willie goes for the easiest race.
*unless owner forces hand ie Laurina.

There is a chance, that the Stayers looks easier than the Mares though isn't there?


Is anyone expecting Paisley Park to be 10L+ victory in the Cleeve in? I think a few lengths is about the best you could hope for.

Another IF needed, but IF Honeysuckle wins well at the DRF, but they stick to the plan of going for the Mares...... would Paisley look more beatable, KNOWING how well BDD gets the 3m trip now?





Probably not on balance, was trying to convince myself.


A NRNB double on Honeysuckle Mares and BDD Stayers might be worthwhile though? - Shame only Slybet offering at the moment

 

[Lobos]

Loving it most of you trying to convince yourselves that taking on Honey at level weights is easier than taking on Paisley getting half a stone over 3 miles. Dont get me wrong, Im desperate for Paisley and his owner to win again and rather Benie had her match up with my darling in the Mares, but we all know if Benie went Stayers she'd be a hot fav to turn Paisley over and the £60k extra pot has to be very tempting too. Love it, just love it.

 

[Lobos]

I was so close yesterday to doing the mares 'Runaround' treble. Didn't bother.

Think PP & Betfair were best prices.
Laurina - Mares 10-1
BDD - stayers 14-1
Honey - Champ 7-1

Now BDD 5-1 stayers.

FWIW,
If Paisley gets beat at the weekend then BDD takes another step closer to running here.

Pretty sure Willie's weighing up the Mares without Benie, especially if Honey going Champion hurdle.
He'd fancy beating Roksana with any of his others.

If Laurina don't run well at Dublin in the Flogas I'd say she's running in one of the staying hurdles too.

Mares without Benie 100% means Honey would Rock up there even if she won the Irish Churdle giving the others a 1/2 mile head start. As both trainers have said, no decision will be made until the last minute. It's going to be some poker game. Who's got the best race, Willie or Henry?????

 

[Pendil]

There is a chance, that the Stayers looks easier than the Mares though isn't there?


Is anyone expecting Paisley Park to be 10L+ victory in the Cleeve in? I think a few lengths is about the best you could hope for.

Another IF needed, but IF Honeysuckle wins well at the DRF, but they stick to the plan of going for the Mares...... would Paisley look more beatable, KNOWING how well BDD gets the 3m trip now?





Probably not on balance, was trying to convince myself.


A NRNB double on Honeysuckle Mares and BDD Stayers might be worthwhile though? - Shame only Slybet offering at the moment

Apples didn't turn up today so she beat nothing. I'm happy with talk about her for the Stayers as it gives an extra point for ITCF to win the that race

 

[Kevloaf]

Loving it most of you trying to convince yourselves that taking on Honey at level weights is easier than taking on Paisley getting half a stone over 3 miles. Dont get me wrong, Im desperate for Paisley and his owner to win again and rather Benie had her match up with my darling in the Mares, but we all know if Benie went Stayers she'd be a hot fav to turn Paisley over and the £60k extra pot has to be very tempting too. Love it, just love it.

You don't half chat some shite Lobos. :highly_amused:


Honeysuckle is rated 150?
Paisley Park is rated 169?




Whichever way you cut it, at the moment Paisley Park is miles clear of anything Honeysuckle has EVER acheived.

 

[Kevloaf]

Apples didn't turn up today so she beat nothing. I'm happy with talk about her for the Stayers as it gives an extra point for ITCF to win the that race

Have they pushed ITCF out today, based on BDD winning?

:highly_amused:

That's an odd move isn't it.

 

[Lobos]

You don't half chat some shite Lobos. :highly_amused:


Honeysuckle is rated 150?
Paisley Park is rated 169?




Whichever way you cut it, at the moment Paisley Park is miles clear of anything Honeysuckle has EVER acheived.

...at the moment

 

[Saxon Warrior]

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You don't half chat some shite Lobos. :highly_amused:


Honeysuckle is rated 150?
Paisley Park is rated 169?




Whichever way you cut it, at the moment Paisley Park is miles clear of anything Honeysuckle has EVER acheived.

This isn’t being pedantic, honest
Honeysuckle has an official Irish rating of 158 (plus 7lb Mares allowance) she isn’t too far away from PP.

 

[Kevloaf]

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This isn’t being pedantic, honest
Honeysuckle has an official Irish rating of 158 (plus 7lb Mares allowance) she isn’t too far away from PP.

My own fault for using the Racing Post ..... BUT.....

The 7lb isn't relevant though is it for Benie Des Dieux


For BDD,

Paisley Park is 169
Honeysucke is 158



That's 11 lbs.... I'd argue that is far away?

 

[Lobos]

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This isn’t being pedantic, honest
Honeysuckle has an official Irish rating of 158 (plus 7lb Mares allowance) she isn’t too far away from PP.

He did say at the moment, meaning until she wins the Irish Churdle next week from Sharjah.

 

[Saxon Warrior]

He did say at the moment, meaning until she wins the Irish Churdle next week from Sharjah.

I hope she does.

 

[Kevloaf]

He did say at the moment, meaning until she wins the Irish Churdle next week from Sharjah.

Tis feasible that she's more formidible by the time we get to March.



Only takes Paisley beaten this weekend and Honeysuckle to bolt up next weekend..... both are POSSIBLE.




Right now though, if Cheltenham was tomorrow, Honeysuckle is much easier to beat than Paisley Park?

 

[Lobos]

Tis feasible that she's more formidible by the time we get to March.



Only takes Paisley beaten this weekend and Honeysuckle to bolt up next weekend..... both are POSSIBLE.




Right now though, if Cheltenham was tomorrow, Honeysuckle is much easier to beat than Paisley Park?

No good asking me is it !! The bookies think so......at the moment. I'm off to trials day Saturday so I'll let you know how good Paisley is up close and personal. Before racing I think I may have 3 AP doubles.....Honey Mares/Benie Stayers....Honey Churdle/Benie Mares and Honey Churdle/ Benie Stayers. That should do it.

Edit... forgot, already did first double!!

 

[Pendil]

My own fault for using the Racing Post ..... BUT.....

The 7lb isn't relevant though is it for Benie Des Dieux


For BDD,

Paisley Park is 169
Honeysucke is 158



That's 11 lbs.... I'd argue that is far away?

Bad arithmetic I would say that's 4lbs:applause:

 

[Arkle]

Hope paisley comes out and thrash’s ITCF on Saturday personally think benie is good enough to come here but I’d be going for redemption for last year why have a mares programme if the best don’t run in it pointless

 

[Lobos]

Reading Mullins comments again after her win yesterday have I got this right....if the fez starts on G/S and the weather is set fair she will go Mares but if it's Soft and likely to stay Soft she'll go Stayers ? That's how I read it.

 

[The Beast]

Think paisley will win but one at a price is Summerville Boy , two time grade one winner and relatively new at trip.20/1 currently wont be available after weekend im guessing.

 

[Craigy14]

Reading Mullins comments again after her win yesterday have I got this right....if the fez starts on G/S and the weather is set fair she will go Mares but if it's Soft and likely to stay Soft she'll go Stayers ? That's how I read it.

Potentially yes.....but with Mullins it’s a grade on day 1 and I think he would regret (if no others win on the day) not taking up the mares 100% if the ground is soft, which it is always on the softer side of good to soft.

 

[Craigy14]

Mares is an easier race than the stayers regardless of what happens pre festival (apart from injuries of course) imo.

Honey is only potential one to beat in the mares imo.

Stayers you have pp itcf Summerville boy city island and possibly even champ.

She did look brilliant but day 1 grade 1 on the board is Mullins normal way of thinking.