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Stayers Hurdle 2019

Stayers Hurdle 2019


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Maybe he'll give him a sex change and run him in the Mares race now Apple's Jade has taken his slot
 
Hes not even back in full work yet I believe. So not a certainty to run. Let alone a likely winner. They gifted him that race at punchestown. So I wouldn't take that form literally at all personally

Patrick Mullins "I sat on him 10 days ago and he felt as everybit as good as he normally does"

Suggests he has been back in work for some time , and Mullins also says he comes here. Whether he wins is another thing , but alls well with The Machine.
 
Patrick Mullins "I sat on him 10 days ago and he felt as everybit as good as he normally does"

Suggests he has been back in work for some time , and Mullins also says he comes here. Whether he wins is another thing , but alls well with The Machine.

I saw the interview yest evening. Every bit as good as he normally Does.

Is that good enough?

I assume your taking the punchestown run literally. I backed him for that race. And was rubbing my hands together at half way. Was plain to see he was gifted it at half way. Penhill was holding up the pack and let faugheen stride on. He diddnt even make an effort until it was game over. And nothing else had a remote chance of finishing infront of penhill as he had the flat speed to cover them.
One for the trainers title

Same happened with un de sceaux. Min made no effort. As he had a hurdles race a couple of days later if it was needed. Just ran for prize money and they let UDS have an uncontested lead.
 
Samcro
Elliot says may come here, Aintree etc etc
Looking for value and NRNB so ...
Cracking Smart 40/1 with 365 , must be worse about?
Off for 355 days before last run
 
Looking at the stayers last year they went a snails pace could of thrown a blanket over them all at the second last this year will be different I think I will be more steady run and paisley will win
 
Looking at the stayers last year they went a snails pace could of thrown a blanket over them all at the second last this year will be different I think I will be more steady run and paisley will win

And who is in it this year that makes you think they will go any different to last season? The pace angle I mean?
 
Sam Spinners Connections should have learnt their lesson.

Sam Spinner is gone.

Unseat, unseat, beaten a mile LTO where he also pecked over a hurdle, can only see him taking them along as per last season only this time around he will be beat further, by the majority of them.
 
Cant have him either but he should go a lot quicker than last year.
 
Sam Spinner is gone.

Unseat, unseat, beaten a mile LTO where he also pecked over a hurdle, can only see him taking them along as per last season only this time around he will be beat further, by the majority of them.

assuming the same horses that set a good gallop in the cleeve turn up then I'd expect they'll do similarly.
But I'm seriously considering backing in running on this, as I've mentioned before.
Given a strong pace I think Paisley will be very difficult to beat.
And I was a Penhill believer all last year, when the no prep run merchants were barking loudest.
I'll probably back penhill also to be fair, as he may also be able to operate off a strong pace, although I have my doubts

But I think Scooby mentioned earlier about Punchestown where it does look like they gave two old boys (Faugheen & UDS) the races by granting easy leads in races where Elliot had nothing to really challenge. Just for the championship battle, so Penhill was not exactly given a 100% winning ride.
 
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May well be BV
My point being if no Samcro what do they run and If CS turns up he won’t be 40’s
NRNB
Think Paisley correctly fav , wouldn’t right off Penhill

To be fair, they've not clipped him for NRNB and he's better than a 40/1 shot
 
assuming the same horses that set a good gallop in the cleeve turn up then I'd expect they'll do similarly.
But I'm seriously considering backing in running on this, as I've mentioned before.
Given a strong pace I think Paisley will be very difficult to beat.
And I was a Penhill believer all last year, when the no prep run merchants were barking loudest.
I'll probably back penhill also to be fair, as he may also be able to operate off a strong pace, although I have my doubts

But I think Scooby mentioned earlier about Punchestown where it does look like they gave two old boys (Faugheen & UDS) the races by granting easy leads in races where Elliot had nothing to really challenge. Just for the championship battle, so Penhill was not exactly given a 100% winning ride.

I'd be tempted by this but my ability to judge live fractions is somewhat lacking. That, and I get too carried away with my pre-run biases, so I stay well away from in-running
 
I'd be tempted by this but my ability to judge live fractions is somewhat lacking. That, and I get too carried away with my pre-run biases, so I stay well away from in-running

I do normally. for similar reasons, but I may prep for it by timing past runnings and have a go.
I'll probably bet before race, and smaller stakes during the race especially if paisley drifts like he has previously once he's niggled.
 
and is Yanworth at 33/1 NRNB too?

Went off 6/1 last year, if the 'pace of the race' didn't suit him.... maybe he's be shorter?

Entered over hurdles and fences as OV pointed out.

This got ignored a few days back.

Evens tomorrow in a 3 mile hurdle...

If he wins, he shortens for the stayers, if he loses, he goes over fences maybe in a handicap...

I'd say the 25/1 NRNB with BV is a bet to nothing at this stage...


One I'd look to lay off closer to the time so probably but I still think it's worthwhile myself.... he's clearly a talented big orange mammel
 
I feel like he’s being lined up for a handicap

Interesting. I hope he goes Stayers although he will be outclassed at this stage with lack of runs. My gut feeling is Samcro won't be rushed back with a view to the long term, so CS will therefore run here. I think he's too high class for a handicap and so highly regarded by Gordon.