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Ryanair 2019

Faugheen_Machine said:
Does Politilogue's Cheltenham form not worry you? It's a notch below the best of his form.
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Of course it does but I don't see any logical explanation for it. It travels and jumps well. It comes down to price at the end of the day. 20/1 was too big. I can't knock the Min bet either.
 
Kevloaf said:
I think it's releative to their price.

Politilogue has a better chance than Charbel, but Charbel was 33/1 and looks to have improved since being beaten by Politilogue.

If Politigloue was 33/1 as well, I imagine everybody would prefer Politilogue to Charbel
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Owners being a little superstitious about Charbel at cheltenham by the looks of it. Fell twice there and likes flat tracks is bullshit.
Of all the horses that could go to the front and get them all at it, it's this one.
Probably closest a horse has come to beating Altior over fences also. Although I will add that the way Altior has ran since probably means it would've ended similarly.

Havinf mentioned hovering for Charbel, I never bothered, but wish I did as he would have an excellent chance of he were to run here.
 
jack1092 said:
Kevloaf said:
Sorry nope i hadn't haha- UDS didn't run to form for me because over 2m5 on soft, he runs out of gas!

I can see the Min angle, and especially at a lot of your nice prices, but for me he's one i wouldn't be confident on come the day- and as i've missed any sort of price i am happy to make my angles vs him now.

Will jump, travel the best, hit 1.5 in running, and bottom out just after the last.
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Too busy on the wrong forum to read the "quality" on here :p :devilish:

Fair enough, I see your point - I'd be the same.

I've actually be anti-Min for 2 seasons, it's funny to be in the other camp.

He's been over rated for aaaaaaages ... I'm hoping THIS RACE is his level....


and FM, while I agree on paper the Ryanair looks good now.... it just won't come the day. I don't think Percy will scare anything off, as the Gold Cup is the Gold Cup..... and anything not good enough to beat Altior is, well, every single horse...but it doesn't mean they're any better than Min. Min was a 2nd on merit last year in the QMCC, which I imagine will be the strongest piece of Cheltenham form of anything in the race.
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boopa said:
Of course it does but I don't see any logical explanation for it. It travels and jumps well. It comes down to price at the end of the day. 20/1 was too big. I can't knock the Min bet either.
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20/1 is a really nice price. I like him a lot but his course form is nagging away at me.

I'm going to watch his JLT and Champion Chase runs again at half time in this football match.
 
I think the flat track argument is a bit of a myth in most cases. Charbel 33/1 was a great bet.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
20/1 is a really nice price. I like him a lot but his course form is nagging away at me.

I'm going to watch his JLT and Champion Chase runs again at half time in this football match.
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Richarlson to score home to Watford must have been 1/10
 
Kevloaf said:
jack1092 said:
Too busy on the wrong forum to read the "quality" on here :p :devilish:

Fair enough, I see your point - I'd be the same.

I've actually be anti-Min for 2 seasons, it's funny to be in the other camp.

He's been over rated for aaaaaaages ... I'm hoping THIS RACE is his level....


and FM, while I agree on paper the Ryanair looks good now.... it just won't come the day. I don't think Percy will scare anything off, as the Gold Cup is the Gold Cup..... and anything not good enough to beat Altior is, well, every single horse...but it doesn't mean they're any better than Min. Min was a 2nd on merit last year in the QMCC, which I imagine will be the strongest piece of Cheltenham form of anything in the race.
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in 2016, the prospect of Cue Card, Don Cossack and Vautour lining up in the GC , ended up with a Gold cup with only 9 runners.
15 ran in the Ryanair, that Vautour defected too.
10 ran in champion chase, but was an unusual year with three returning champions an odds on favourite and around four others who's finished second in the past.
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Kevloaf said:
jack1092 said:
Too busy on the wrong forum to read the "quality" on here :p :devilish:

Fair enough, I see your point - I'd be the same.

I've actually be anti-Min for 2 seasons, it's funny to be in the other camp.

He's been over rated for aaaaaaages ... I'm hoping THIS RACE is his level....


and FM, while I agree on paper the Ryanair looks good now.... it just won't come the day. I don't think Percy will scare anything off, as the Gold Cup is the Gold Cup..... and anything not good enough to beat Altior is, well, every single horse...but it doesn't mean they're any better than Min. Min was a 2nd on merit last year in the QMCC, which I imagine will be the strongest piece of Cheltenham form of anything in the race.
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I'm not against Min Kev, in fact quite the opposite, but I do think this will be a deep race.
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Kevloaf said:
Richarlson to score home to Watford must have been 1/10
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I wasn't keen when we signed him but I've gone full circle, he's head and shoulder above the rest of our forwards. A bit like Min in the Ryanair:highly_amused:
 
Didnt realise you were a bluenose FM. Glad I never mentioned the derby now :devilish:
 
Can't Catch Me said:
Didnt realise you were a bluenose FM. Glad I never mentioned the derby now :devilish:
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I read the Betfair forum occasionally so was aware of your allegiance :devilish:

It is going to take a while to get over that defeat CCM. At least we turned up in a Derby game for a change, which is small consolation. I thought we outplayed you lads for a fair chunk of the game but we always manage to find a way to lose.
 
Faugheen_Machine said:
I read the Betfair forum occasionally so was aware of your allegiance :devilish:

It is going to take a while to get over that defeat CCM. At least we turned up in a Derby game for a change, which is small consolation. I thought we outplayed you lads for a fair chunk of the game but we always manage to find a way to lose.
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Yeah totally agree with that mate. Best Everton performance at Anfield in many a year and very unlucky to lose. We just seem to have the Indian sign over you for some weird reason. But think you've a good Manager and are going the right way. Was very impressed with Gomes in particular.

Feel your pain MoM. Tough times :grumpy:
 
Kevloaf said:
Sorry have I missed something?

Which renrewals of the Ryanair have been won by a stayer, outstaying the best horse in the race?

I've been back through and put my two pennies in on it, but this notion that stayers win the Ryanair is being taken for granted... I feel I've shown that is ISN'T always the case?
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I am confused by who all these "stayers" are to beat Min as well, I think he has a belting chance to win this race and I can see him going off favourite on the day and winning this. His class will shine through.
 
jonthehammer said:
I am confused by who all these "stayers" are to beat Min as well, I think he has a belting chance to win this race and I can see him going off favourite on the day and winning this. His class will shine through.
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Monalee and shattered love aparrently.

The former is not good enough to beat min. The latter has just been beat by him with a prep beforehand and goes for the gold cup.
 
quevega said:
Owners being a little superstitious about Charbel at cheltenham by the looks of it. Fell twice there and likes flat tracks is bullshit.
Of all the horses that could go to the front and get them all at it, it's this one.
Probably closest a horse has come to beating Altior over fences also. Although I will add that the way Altior has ran since probably means it would've ended similarly.



Havinf mentioned hovering for Charbel, I never bothered, but wish I did as he would have an excellent chance of he were to run here.
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He's a Peterborough Chase winner so you can cross him off this race.
 
Have you had a bet in the race yet doc?
 
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