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Ryanair 2019

boopa said:
The bet must have been 2 places. They can't change the place terms. Antepost rules.
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It was 2. Only boyles (7/1) and pp b/f (5/1) we're 3 places. The rest were 2.
 
quevega said:
That;s not Factual is it Archie. Can't be bothered looking at every race but dead heating with Simply Ned was not a 165 performance
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Should have made clear, that's RPR (for both horses).
 
Scooby91 said:
Your on drugs. He's ran against the very best.
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Yes over 2m. Doesn't travel like it wants further and doesn't find much off the bridle. It will get outstayed over a stiff 2m5. Can't way to lay it odds on in running.
 
boopa said:
Yes over 2m. Doesn't travel like it wants further and doesn't find much off the bridle. It will get outstayed over a stiff 2m5. Can't way to lay it odds on in running.
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Good luck with that. He'll trounce balko des flos on Sunday And any race they ever meet in Over 2m5.
 
Min needs to find improvement from somewhere if BDF reproduces its Ryanair run.
 
boopa said:
Min needs to find improvement from somewhere if BDF reproduces its Ryanair run.
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Not a chance. Quite the opposite. Pretty clear un de sceaux diddnt run his race in the Ryan air. Funny how at Aintree the 2 from the Ryanair finished in the same order tailed off and both aparrently "bombed"
 
It was a strongly run race and he travelled all over them. BDF was quicker to 4 out than Shattered Love in the JLT. Shattered Love finished 3.75s faster from there but was carrying 13lbs less.

It's a potential Gold Cup horse v a Champion Chase horse stepping up. My money would be on the stayer in a strongly run Ryanair. I'm not a big fan of Min.
 
Scooby91 said:
Not a chance. Quite the opposite. Pretty clear un de sceaux diddnt run his race in the Ryan air. Funny how at Aintree the 2 from the Ryanair finished in the same order tailed off and both aparrently "bombed"
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I'd respectfully say the opposite,
There's absolutely nothing to suggest UDS didn't run his race and if you took BDF out of that race it would have looked like Normality for UDS form.
The performance of BDF and Cloudy Dream were no where near their true form at aintree and more likely they were poor on the day because of their efforts trying to beat a relentless machine like UDS at cheltenham,

Are you really suggesting that Min and Politologue would have pulled 33 lengths clear in the Ryanair. Because that's what your comments imply.

Min and BDF are both capable of top drawer performances and have proven so in the past.
Stop talking Bollocks.
 
Unlikely to need a stayer on Sunday.
 
For me BDF remains a horse of potential, but I'm highly dubious about that Ryanair form. UDS clearly doesn't get home 2m4f on soft ground. I'd need to see some spark in this campaign to back him in March.
 
quevega said:
I'd respectfully say the opposite,
There's absolutely nothing to suggest UDS didn't run his race and if you took BDF out of that race it would have looked like Normality for UDS form.
The performance of BDF and Cloudy Dream were no where near their true form at aintree and more likely they were poor on the day because of their efforts trying to beat a relentless machine like UDS at cheltenham,

Are you really suggesting that Min and Politologue would have pulled 33 lengths clear in the Ryanair. Because that's what your comments imply.

Min and BDF are both capable of top drawer performances and have proven so in the past.
Stop talking Bollocks.
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You rate balko des flos way too highly. Mins a far superior horse. I can't help that.
 
It was a brutal race. It probably left a mark on him.
 
Scooby91 said:
You rate balko des flos way too highly. Mins a far superior horse. I can't help that.
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Wrong. I think Min is a better horse and will likely win Sunday. He's definitely more consistent.
I only Backed Balko as the price was wrong in respect to it's chances and also in anticipation of the race competition thinning out.

I was just responding cos what you were saying to support your opinion of the horse was wrong. I respect it's your opinion but it can still be ill founded.
 
bobbyvalentino said:
For me BDF remains a horse of potential, but I'm highly dubious about that Ryanair form. UDS clearly doesn't get home 2m4f on soft ground. I'd need to see some spark in this campaign to back him in March.
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Un De Sceaux's form is as consistent as almost any other horse in training, He's a very reliable yardstick and a handicappers dream.
The way he attacks the race means he's always got the potential to tie up a little bit at the end of his races, especially over furtheron soft ground , but I'm pretty sure that was not visually obvious in the Ryanair, but I accept that is very difficult for anyone to really know for sure.
 
quevega said:
Un De Sceaux's form is as consistent as almost any other horse in training, He's a very reliable yardstick and a handicappers dream.
The way he attacks the race means he's always got the potential to tie up a little bit at the end of his races, especially over furtheron soft ground , but I'm pretty sure that was not visually obvious in the Ryanair, but I accept that is very difficult for anyone to really know for sure.
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That's what the clock is for. We can compare the sectionals with the JLT and Brown Advisory on the same day. It was a strongly run race. The only horse that could cope with it was BDF.
 
boopa said:
That's what the clock is for. We can compare the sectionals with the JLT and Brown Advisory on the same day. It was a strongly run race. The only horse that could cope with it was BDF.
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Yeah, it was very impressive the way he was the only one cruising. And the way he went past. I won't forget that.
 
BDF reached 4 out 6 seconds faster than The Storyteller carrying 6lbs more. They finished in exactly the same time from there. It was a huge performance as the ratings show.
 
boopa said:
BDF reached 4 out 6 seconds faster than The Storyteller carrying 6lbs more. They finished in exactly the same time from there. It was a huge performance as the ratings show.
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And a lovely day too
 
Skybet left their antepost odds up for the John Durkan after decs......big mistake they made....3 places and odds based on all entered!
 
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