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[Quevega]

Even if Mundi doesn't make it I still give it no chance of happening.

Not sure I'd go with that.
If Palladium looks really good then it will definitely be tempting. Especially if Mundi ruled out.
Can't see why you'd be so adam ant especially as they bothered to enter today.

Nico could ride both which would please connections.
The supreme does not look deep and even shallower with Mundi out.

But a few things have to happen I get that, it's not something you'd expect or should expect to happen for sure.
Palladium might bomb on Thursday and this little chat will be a distant memory like 99.9% of the shit on here :highly_amused::loyal:

 

[HoldenTheReins]

Not sure I'd go with that.
If Palladium looks really good then it will definitely be tempting. Especially if Mundi ruled out.
Can't see why you'd be so adam ant especially as they bothered to enter today.

Nico could ride both which would please connections.
The supreme does not look deep and even shallower with Mundi out.

But a few things have to happen I get that, it's not something you'd expect or should expect to happen for sure.
Palladium might bomb on Thursday and this little chat will be a distant memory like 99.9% of the shit on here :highly_amused::loyal:

I meant if Mundi didn't make the supreme I still can't see Lulamba going there. Not fussed about Palladium.

 

[Quevega]

I meant if Mundi didn't make the supreme I still can't see Lulamba going there. Not fussed about Palladium.

I know what you meant. That was easy.
What's harder to understand is how you don't see Palladium as being the key to any possibility.
But have a lie down I reckon. I already am.
You're obviously more of a doer and a hoper, than a thinker. Pro's and cons really.

 

[HoldenTheReins]

I know what you meant. That was easy.
What's harder to understand is how you don't see Palladium as being the key to any possibility.
But have a lie down I reckon. I already am.
You're obviously more of a doer and a hoper, than a thinker. Pro's and cons really.

Got to have strong views in some cases otherwise you'd be thinking about covering every possible angle.

Could it it happen, possibly but I'd just write it off happening.

 

[Quevega]

Got to have strong views in some cases otherwise you'd be thinking about covering every possible angle.

Could it it happen, possibly but I'd just write it off happening.

Brilliant. I've got you from no chance to possibly. :applouse:
Absolutely agree. Over thinking and over covering is probably a bad habit for sure.
I blame the fuckers entering him - to tease.

 

[HoldenTheReins]

Brilliant. I've got you from no chance to possibly. :applouse:
Absolutely agree. Over thinking and over covering is probably a bad habit for sure.
I blame the fuckers entering him - to tease.

No one likes blue balls....:biggrin-new:

 

[somer1]

Not very good at these so went for an easy one that i have not seen done.
How about a sisters double?
Amen Kate Bumper and Baby Kate MNH

 

[IstabraqBarRegular]

Lulamba - Supreme, got to think it's just in case something happens to Salvator Mundi (hopefully).

I'm on a THE THE double at decent November prices for the Wednesday at Cheltenham.....
The New Lion - Turners
The Jukebox Man - Brown Advisory

 

[Kevloaf]

Brilliant. I've got you from no chance to possibly. :applouse:
Absolutely agree. Over thinking and over covering is probably a bad habit for sure.
I blame the fuckers entering him - to tease.

https://www.racingpost.com/results/11/cheltenham/2015-03-13/614838

Willing to run 3x single figure horses in the same race

Closer to no chance than possible for me, and I love this kind of shit



I'd also be feeling the wrong way around, that Lullamba winning not making me more confident in Palladium. His flat forms a bit wanky as well. If Joseph can't make these flat horses stars, then Hendo can't :applouse:



Maybe over the next few hours I convince myself I want to back Palladium though

 

[AaronLad]

https://www.racingpost.com/results/11/cheltenham/2015-03-13/614838

Willing to run 3x single figure horses in the same race

Closer to no chance than possible for me, and I love this kind of shit



I'd also be feeling the wrong way around, that Lullamba winning not making me more confident in Palladium. His flat forms a bit wanky as well. If Joseph can't make these flat horses stars, then Hendo can't :applouse:



Maybe over the next few hours I convince myself I want to back Palladium though

In 2015 He had l'ami serge 7/2 2nd fav for the Supreme for the double green, douvan won the supreme.

Completely different circumstances here

 

[Quevega]

https://www.racingpost.com/results/11/cheltenham/2015-03-13/614838

Willing to run 3x single figure horses in the same race

Closer to no chance than possible for me, and I love this kind of shit



I'd also be feeling the wrong way around, that Lullamba winning not making me more confident in Palladium. His flat forms a bit wanky as well. If Joseph can't make these flat horses stars, then Hendo can't :applouse:



Maybe over the next few hours I convince myself I want to back Palladium though

I reckon he ran three to ensure beating Beltor :highly_amused:

 

[Kevloaf]

In 2015 He had l'ami serge 7/2 2nd fav for the Supreme for the double green, douvan won the supreme.

Completely different circumstances here

Oh yeah it was a weak arguement from the start :victorious:

It's actually just that I think Palladium is nowhere near good enough and they won't be moving the short priced Triumph fav no matter what, as Palladium won't be anywhere near fav for the Triumph .... so even without Mundi, I don't see it


Let's see tomorrow when Palladium makes 2/9 looks dicey :indecisiveness:

 

[Kevloaf]

I reckon he ran three to ensure beating Beltor :highly_amused:

Haha .... I had to double check he was actuially in the same race....as my memory tells me I had all of them really well backed..... although in reality I probably did have them all backed, just not 'really well' :culpability::highly_amused:



Maybe I had the others backed and then got absolutely terrified of Beltor and started giving my money away..... now that sounds much more feasible

 

[AaronLad]

Oh yeah it was a weak arguement from the start :victorious:

It's actually just that I think Palladium is nowhere near good enough and they won't be moving the short priced Triumph fav no matter what, as Palladium won't be anywhere near fav for the Triumph .... so even without Mundi, I don't see it


Let's see tomorrow when Palladium makes 2/9 looks dicey :indecisiveness:

You could be right about Palladium, but he could also be showing hendo enough to have even made that entry for lulamba.
If palladium gives nico a terrific feel tomorrow he'll do all he can to ride both, wont he?

I dont think mundi comes in to the equation, just as state man wouldnt if anything happened to the hill and gino needed to step in to the champion hurdle.

A proper taking performance tomorrow, does it become more possible for you?

 

[Kevloaf]

You could be right about Palladium, but he could also be showing hendo enough to have even made that entry for lulamba.
If palladium gives nico a terrific feel tomorrow he'll do all he can to ride both, wont he?

I dont think mundi comes in to the equation, just as state man wouldnt if anything happened to the hill and gino needed to step in to the champion hurdle.

A proper taking performance tomorrow, does it become more possible for you?

I think it'd be more owner lead than making Nico happy to be honest




I don't think I can possibly see a 'proper taking performance' tomorrow.... anything other than 10L on the bridle and it's pretty poor .... and is that the kind of prep I want for a festival race?

Granted he's got experience on the flat.




I suppose if he jumped like Lough Derg Spirit then I'd re-assess, yes



Can get 250/1 on the double at the moment and I've still not pulled the trigger, which is rare for me

I will give it some proper, proper thought in the next half hour

 

[Kevloaf]

You can get 50/1 on Hiddenvalley Lake winning tomorrow with Crambo for the Stayers

Which each way makes some appeal to me, for a horse I'm not on


Seperated by a head last time

They're both 16/1 best price outright

you can only get 33/1 HVL to do the double

So 50/1 for the horse that beat him if he won, is relative value on that at least

.........and it's with a cash out so always a chance to get some pennies back

 

[Benjy23]

I may have posted this before but fuck it...

Kaid D'authie - Supreme & Koktail Divin - Turners @ 314/1

With Koktail Divin in a maiden on Saturday and Kaid D'authie in against Kopek at the DRF, the double is likely to be a different price in 10 days time. Either way...

Slightly concerned for Koktail Divin on Saturday given Henry's recent form to be honest. Couple more beaten favs today and nothing even within 20 lengths of winning!
​​​​​
For clarity 1st and 2nd in a Leopardstown maiden over Christmas is the relationship... Rather than both being KD :biggrin-new:

 

[darlojim]

I may have posted this before but fuck it...

Kaid D'authie - Supreme & Koktail Divin - Turners @ 314/1

With Koktail Divin in a maiden on Saturday and Kaid D'authie in against Kopek at the DRF, the double is likely to be a different price in 10 days time. Either way...

Slightly concerned for Koktail Divin on Saturday given Henry's recent form to be honest. Couple more beaten favs today and nothing even within 20 lengths of winning!
​​​​​
For clarity 1st and 2nd in a Leopardstown maiden over Christmas is the relationship... Rather than both being KD :biggrin-new:

https://www.fatjockey.com/forum/fat...7470-2025-novice-hurdlers?p=480582#post480582

Thought the same when they crossed the line, chanced it back then, think somewhere around the same odds tbh

Henrys form deeply concerning though

 

[Odin]

I may have posted this before but fuck it...

Kaid D'authie - Supreme & Koktail Divin - Turners @ 314/1

With Koktail Divin in a maiden on Saturday and Kaid D'authie in against Kopek at the DRF, the double is likely to be a different price in 10 days time. Either way...

Slightly concerned for Koktail Divin on Saturday given Henry's recent form to be honest. Couple more beaten favs today and nothing even within 20 lengths of winning!
​​​​​
For clarity 1st and 2nd in a Leopardstown maiden over Christmas is the relationship... Rather than both being KD :biggrin-new:

There's another we could have in that same race:

Kawaboomga (supreme), kopek (turners) from one of the other maidens

And then there's the related double of William munny winning Saturday with Workahead (supreme).

Very interesting race and you'd have to say pretty crazy that all three runners in that 2 miler have a better chance of winning at Cheltenham than any of the UK's 2 milers which says a lot about the state of UK racing...

 

[Lobos]

I may have posted this before but fuck it...

Kaid D'authie - Supreme & Koktail Divin - Turners @ 314/1

With Koktail Divin in a maiden on Saturday and Kaid D'authie in against Kopek at the DRF, the double is likely to be a different price in 10 days time. Either way...

Slightly concerned for Koktail Divin on Saturday given Henry's recent form to be honest. Couple more beaten favs today and nothing even within 20 lengths of winning!
​​​​​
For clarity 1st and 2nd in a Leopardstown maiden over Christmas is the relationship... Rather than both being KD :biggrin-new:

Worth a pound of anyone's money. Cost of a cheap packet of crisps.