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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2020

I have not backed a Mullins runner over Christmas for at least 4 years its amazing how many run below par, check it out.
 
Redbridge said:
I have not backed a Mullins runner over Christmas for at least 4 years its amazing how many run below par, check it out.
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Remember myself and others saying the same this fime last year... He turned it back round, have mostly Elliotts in the book, but not concerned with the Mullins I have, he knows what he is doing!
 
Just wondering what people made of sceau royal performance. jumped nicely and seemed to travel in to the race well....Going down to the last he looked like he might have had a chance of picking up the winner but he got in a bit close.

33/1 with pp a fair price? or is he not worth a bet
 
sprintersacren said:
Just wondering what people made of sceau royal performance. jumped nicely and seemed to travel in to the race well....Going down to the last he looked like he might have had a chance of picking up the winner but he got in a bit close.

33/1 with pp a fair price? or is he not worth a bet
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Not for me ....... travels yes so if you want to bet to lay in running I wouldn’t put you off but will he win ???? Absolutely not
 
sprintersacren said:
Just wondering what people made of sceau royal performance. jumped nicely and seemed to travel in to the race well....Going down to the last he looked like he might have had a chance of picking up the winner but he got in a bit close.

33/1 with pp a fair price? or is he not worth a bet
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you can try find as many excuses as possible but at the end of the day hes been unable to beat a very poor arkle winner and a horse in Bun Doran. That sort of form is miles below what is needed to win this. Add to that hes ground dependent on the fact thats hes much better on good ground
 
Just rewatched the Irish 2m chase and not too disheartened with Chacun's performance. Having travelled and jumped fine for most of the race perhaps he tired in last half mile being his first run of season which is perhaps why he struggled to quicken and put the race to bed. Expect improvement next time out and at the end of the day I think most of us backers will be on him at big prices so not the end of the world. And well highlighted on here about the price of A Plus Tard available at a certain bookmakers has given me another potential live dart at a big price.
 
SamuelP said:
Just rewatched the Irish 2m chase and not too disheartened with Chacun's performance. Having travelled and jumped fine for most of the race perhaps he tired in last half mile being his first run of season which is perhaps why he struggled to quicken and put the race to bed. Expect improvement next time out and at the end of the day I think most of us backers will be on him at big prices so not the end of the world. And well highlighted on here about the price of A Plus Tard available at a certain bookmakers has given me another potential live dart at a big price.
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If you think he’s gonna win the champion chase without a battle your wrong. He was simply out battled today which would be a worry for future races Realistically he’s beat a good horse in Defi but what everyone seems to be forgetting is he was aimed at 2m 4f all year. For me he’s been massively overhyped for what he’s actually achieved. If you’d never seen Min run before Aintree last year, everyone would be saying he’s a certainty for this. Cheltenham is where it’s at, the festivals after that forget as they mean absolutely nothing in relation to form.
 
Kautothegreat8 said:
If you think he’s gonna win the champion chase without a battle your wrong. He was simply out battled today which would be a worry for future races Realistically he’s beat a good horse in Defi but what everyone seems to be forgetting is he was aimed at 2m 4f all year. For me he’s been massively overhyped for what he’s actually achieved. If you’d never seen Min run before Aintree last year, everyone would be saying he’s a certainty for this. Cheltenham is where it’s at, the festivals after that forget as they mean absolutely nothing in relation to form.
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Never said he would win a Champion Chase without a battle. It is much harder to battle though if there's not much in the tank as opposed to there being plenty of fuel left. My point is that I'm hoping he will improve for the run. Trying to be optimistic after a couple of rough days antepost haha
 
SamuelP said:
Never said he would win a Champion Chase without a battle. It is much harder to battle though if there's not much in the tank as opposed to there being plenty of fuel left. My point is that I'm hoping he will improve for the run. Trying to be optimistic after a couple of rough days antepost haha
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He will be better no doubt, I just have massive doubt as to how good he actually is. Yes he tied up at the finish but the question I’d be asking is why was APT as a 2m 4f horse so close to him ?? If he’d have been sent on to win his race and got caught, I could understand the loss being put down to fitness. I’m just not sure he’s the machine everyone was hoping for.
 
Kautothegreat8 said:
He will be better no doubt, I just have massive doubt as to how good he actually is. Yes he tied up at the finish but the question I’d be asking is why was APT as a 2m 4f horse so close to him ?? If he’d have been sent on to win his race and got caught, I could understand the loss being put down to fitness. I’m just not sure he’s the machine everyone was hoping for.
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Perhaps not but perhaps we shouldn't write him off at the same time just because he didn't win. If we did that then we would have to write off Altior as well, and we would have written Defi off last year based on his run in behind Chacun. We would then be left backing Bun Doran because he won today
 
Are you kidding me,chacon no chance for champion chase..
 
Big Bucks said:
Remember myself and others saying the same this fime last year... He turned it back round, have mostly Elliotts in the book, but not concerned with the Mullins I have, he knows what he is doing!
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Yes, its only a blip, they will find 7-10lb come march, How many times has Ruby said he believed they were straighter over the past two days and they need a bit more.
 
iainmcf said:
Are you kidding me,chacon no chance for champion chase..
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Why does it have to be so black and white? Bet you would have said the same about Defi at end of last season but 2 runs later he has a chance
 
I would have expected a bigger price after today in all honesty. If he’d have been 8/1 I would have a punt and pray Douvan doesn’t turn up. He’s a shocking price as we stand now, that there is no doubt.
 
Kautothegreat8 said:
I would have expected a bigger price after today in all honesty. If he’d have been 8/1 I would have a punt and pray Douvan doesn’t turn up. He’s a shocking price as we stand now, that there is no doubt.
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Yeah price is shit right now.
 
A Plus Tard target still Ryanair unless we get testing ground at Cheltenham in which case he'll come here.
 
Lobos said:
A Plus Tard target still Ryanair unless we get testing ground at Cheltenham in which case he'll come here.
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Is that a quote from somebody or your opinion?
 
Kevloaf said:
Is that a quote from somebody or your opinion?
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Henry has quoted that he’s basically surprised after todays result as he had the Ryanair on his mind.
He didn’t think the trip would suit but the ground was the equaliser. Said he’ll have a champion chase entry but will be ground dependent
 
QUOTES: He had some great runs last year as a novice and I was happy with his first run back this season. We knew he'd come on plenty for it but the favourite was so impressive last year it looked like he'd be difficult to beat over this trip. I wasn't convinced this was our trip but the softened ground helped and he jumped great. We'll probably enter him now in the Champion Chase but in my head he was always going for the Ryanair. I believe he's better going left-handed and I couldn't find a race over two and a half. I think ground would come into play as regards plans (for Cheltenham). He'll probably come back for the 2m race [Dublin Chase] here in February - Henry de Bromhead, trainer of A PLUS TARD
 
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