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PERTEMPS NETWORK FINAL Handicap Hurdle

I mean, on the face of it you would make SDB a proper bet tomorrow, effectively dropped 3lb for finishing runner up in the Stayers Hurdle, but we know he’ll finish 5th about 20l behind the winner…
 
What if the plan is the Stayers Hurdle again for SDB, and he'll be trying tomorrow, especially so that another JP horse doesn't win the race, but he then can go to the Pertemps, instead?

I've talked myself into backing SDB at 12/1 tomorrow :highly_amused:
 
ComplyOrDie said:
What if the plan is the Stayers Hurdle again for SDB, and he'll be trying tomorrow, especially so that another JP horse doesn't win the race, but he then can go to the Pertemps, instead?

I've talked myself into backing SDB at 12/1 tomorrow :highly_amused:
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We'll know if that's the case before the off. it would be a fantastic double bluff to win an easy race, get on the best horse at good prices and then disappear back to grade1
 
FinalFurlong91 said:
I imagine something is going to get backed very heavily as most of the field won't be trying
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Riggs is the only one who needs to win to get a run in the final so I know where my money is going. Probably too simplistic a view but also makes sense!
 
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Odin said:
Riggs is the only one who needs to win to get a run in the final so I know where my money is going. Probably too simplistic a view but also makes sense!
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This was my simple view also. But I'm not sure he does need to win does he? He's high enough already to have got in last year's fairly comfortably. 126 rated horses got in.

131 the year before that (2020) and 134 lowest rated in 2019

​​​​​He's on 132 at the moment so could be tight but there's a suggestion (from that tiny sample) that the required rating is actually going down. Assume this year's qualifiers / likely runners this year show something different?
 
Benjy23 said:
This was my simple view also. But I'm not sure he does need to win does he? He's high enough already to have got in last year's fairly comfortably. 126 rated horses got in.

131 the year before that (2020) and 134 lowest rated in 2019

​​​​​He's on 132 at the moment so could be tight but there's a suggestion (from that tiny sample) that the required rating is actually going down. Assume this year's qualifiers / likely runners this year show something different?
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Take out last year when all marks were lower probably because of COVID and I have him as borderline. I had the average over 5/6 years as about 134/135 which could be wrong but feels right to be sure - handicapper can't rate this race too highly anyway right given only one or two of them will actually be trying to win?!
 
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Odin said:
Riggs is the only one who needs to win to get a run in the final so I know where my money is going. Probably too simplistic a view but also makes sense!
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Is there merit in a double on Riggs today and SDB in the final?
 
Shergar said:
Is there merit in a double on Riggs today and SDB in the final?
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Could be - Riggs the one for money as well I think. I'm hoping sire gets lengthened for not winning today, then I'll back him but who knows - I've already backed 3 and cashed one of them so gotta be careful!​​​​​​
 
All finishers qualified then. Kind of asking for non triers that in fairness.

Sporting John a talented horse on his day to be fair. Must be right near the top of the weights here now though.
 
Benjy23 said:
All finishers qualified then. Kind of asking for non triers that in fairness.

Sporting John a talented horse on his day to be fair. Must be right near the top of the weights here now though.
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Not gonna pretend for a second that I saw it beforehand because I obviously didn't - but given we all latched onto SDB just trying to qualify maybe the other McManus horse was actually the obvious winner. No way he wins the final off the weight he will have though
 
Odin said:
Not gonna pretend for a second that I saw it beforehand because I obviously didn't - but given we all latched onto SDB just trying to qualify maybe the other McManus horse was actually the obvious winner. No way he wins the final off the weight he will have though
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If SDB is really the McManus one for this then Sporting John could run in Stayers? Especially if Champ was to go GC. Wouldn't give him much chance of winning but he's fairly unexposed as a staying hurdler and there's places available in the Stayers.
 
Benjy23 said:
If SDB is really the McManus one for this then Sporting John could run in Stayers? Especially if Champ was to go GC. Wouldn't give him much chance of winning but he's fairly unexposed as a staying hurdler and there's places available in the Stayers.
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Nicky pretty much committed Champ to the stayers yesterday.
They'd run 2 in it anyway, no problem.
 
“I think Champ will go to Cheltenham over hurdles, I think that is the probability. He still has got both options (Stayers’ Hurdle and Gold Cup) open.

“He hasn’t schooled over anything since Ascot.”


Henderson yesterday.
 
Quevega said:
Nicky pretty much committed Champ to the stayers yesterday.
They'd run 2 in it anyway, no problem.
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Missed that one. Cheers.

Aye, JP no problem running in two in either race I guess. Still think it's probably more likely Sporting John goes for Stayers than here.
 
Benjy23 said:
Missed that one. Cheers.

Aye, JP no problem running in two in either race I guess. Still think it's probably more likely Sporting John goes for Stayers than here.
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I do as well.
 
According to the Racing Post race comments the vet reported that Sire Du Berlais had been struck into his right hind during the Warwick race
 
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