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MARTIN PIPE Conditionals Handicap Hurdle

Lobos said:
Galopin Des Champ didn't look any better prior to his Pipe demolition job.
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They are night & day in comparison, Galopin has been consciously campaigned at 2m & probably would have blown his mark at Limerick had he not been under the weather. Spanish Harlem has been exposed for being an in between distances battle shirker!
 
Quevega said:
No, he was 7lb higher though.
135 for a Mullins horse in a handicap is quite rare.
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:glee: what?



They don't just blanket give Mullins horses ratings? Loads of his horses would be in the 130's, when that's how good they are?!



He's 135, cos that's what he is? Unless he's got 10lbs in hand.... my point is, I don't see what he has "in hand".... I see his case, as I like Imagine.... but he's just fair..... both are "too short" now





Being 135 is moot overall.
 
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SeanRock said:
They are night & day in comparison, Galopin has been consciously campaigned at 2m & probably would have blown his mark at Limerick had he not been under the weather. Spanish Harlem has been exposed for being an in between distances battle shirker!
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Think it's more about Spanish Harlem being talked about all season and everyone focussing on and analysing his performances whereas Galopin was completely under the radar and no one gave a hoot about him.
 
Lobos said:
Think it's more about Spanish Harlem being talked about all season and everyone focussing on and analysing his performances whereas Galopin was completely under the radar and no one gave a hoot about him.
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Incorrect. Willie put him up as his dark horse to follow for the season in the RP stable tour then waxed lyrical about him in his sportinglife tour. It was his clever race plan that led to the juicy Martin Pipe prices.

That & his under the weather showing at Limerick. Spanish Harlem & him are chalk & cheese.
 
Kevloaf said:
:glee: what?



They don't just blanket give Mullins horses ratings? Loads of his horses would be in the 130's, when that's how good they are?!



He's 135, cos that's what he is? Unless he's got 10lbs in hand.... my point is, I don't see what he has "in hand".... I see his case, as I like Imagine.... but he's just fair..... both are "too short" now





Being 135 is moot overall.
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I agree, was just saying :highly_amused:
Not being clever either.

He has been a talking horse though and mentioned by Willie in similar fashion to previous types. So 135 is low in that regard.
I bet if you asked Willie, he'd be pleased with that.
About as low a mark as you can get before missing the cut.
 
Can’t be having this Spanish Harlem talk. What else has Willie got that he doesn’t want us noticing? Tax For Max?

edit: TFM is entered up on the 5th, hoses up before this? Gaelic W race is fair form for a chelts perspective
 
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gwaaan said:
Can’t be having this Spanish Harlem talk. What else has Willie got that he doesn’t want us noticing? Tax For Max?
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I just think he has nothing! It's not a plot... he just doesn't have one.
 
gwaaan said:
Can’t be having this Spanish Harlem talk. What else has Willie got that he doesn’t want us noticing? Tax For Max?
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He has nothing for the handicaps.
He said so at press day.
So surely we believe him no ?
 
Quevega said:
I agree, was just saying :highly_amused:
Not being clever either.

He has been a talking horse though and mentioned by Willie in similar fashion to previous types. So 135 is low in that regard.
I bet if you asked Willie, he'd be pleased with that.
About as low a mark as you can get before missing the cut.
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Haha, well fair enough.... devils advocate and all.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.... as a thrown out statement it does work, and I'm sure Willie would be happy.... but he'd also be happy if he was 125.... and if he was 145 he'd be running in a graded race instead, as Willie seems to want to win proper races rather than really target handicaps?



His handicap hurdler record is a numbers game for me, he has so many that it creates the chances, whereas, Gordon 'targets' them from a long way out.




For me, Gordon shits on Willie for handicaps, but as Willie has ridiculous nukmbers hes a player, and Willie shits on Gordon for graded horses.

Between them, it's why the Irish are streets ahead.
 
gwaaan said:
Can’t be having this Spanish Harlem talk. What else has Willie got that he doesn’t want us noticing? Tax For Max?

edit: TFM is entered up on the 5th, hoses up before this? Gaelic W race is fair form for a chelts perspective
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TFM for the County, IMO.
 
….notice Faivoir cut from 50-1 to 33-1 with PP/BFSB :barbershop_quartet_member::welcoming:
 
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Gordon put up Cool Survivor as his best chance in this tonight at the preview I was at with him on the panel for anyone interested. Opinion seems to change every day
 
PresentingPercy said:
Gordon put up Cool Survivor as his best chance in this tonight at the preview I was at with him on the panel for anyone interested. Opinion seems to change every day
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I've definitely seen hi mput up a different Pipe horse on different previews before.....

Which preview is it?

Have we not got a link?
 
Kevloaf said:
I've definitely seen hi mput up a different Pipe horse on different previews before.....

Which preview is it?

Have we not got a link?
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Preview in Dublin, they don't record or broadcast it. Allows them to maybe say a few things they normally wouldn't. Wasn't too great this year however
 
PresentingPercy said:
Preview in Dublin, they don't record or broadcast it. Allows them to maybe say a few things they normally wouldn't. Wasn't too great this year however
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Fair enough, anything you can share, let us know ;)
 
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