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Mares Hurdle 2020

Great day today. Honeysuckle was the standout horse in the parade ring. Even taking my eye more than Envoi Allen. Very taking performance as well, and has proven she's a top notch mare. Will they be tempted by the CH now? Who knows....i hope so for my bets. Though i'd love a Benie vs Honeysuckle showdown.
 
jack1092 said:
Great day today. Honeysuckle was the standout horse in the parade ring. Even taking my eye more than Envoi Allen. Very taking performance as well, and has proven she's a top notch mare. Will they be tempted by the CH now? Who knows....i hope so for my bets. Though i'd love a Benie vs Honeysuckle showdown.
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She does look the part doesn't she. All class. Does it all so easily and professionally. One more run end of Jan/early Feb then wrap her up for Mares.
 
Lobos said:
She does look the part doesn't she. All class. Does it all so easily and professionally. One more run end of Jan/early Feb then wrap her up for Mares.
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She's a standout in the paddock 100% to look at.

Ah nah, get her in the Champion haha.
 
I must say Honeysuckle’s performance makes this race very interesting. My suspicion is that Benie is still the one to beat but Honeysuckle will put it up to her, for sure. It should be a great race. Benie will need to settle better than last year’s race but I think she has the proven form in the book. Honeysuckle looked great today but I fear she beat a field of under performing horses or horses being run over too short a trip. That said, I wish I had the 7-1 some of you have on her. Can’t wait for the clash.
 
jack1092 said:
She's a standout in the paddock 100% to look at.

Ah nah, get her in the Champion haha.
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It has to be in consideration, market certainly says so. The CH doesn’t look too strong especially in the absence of BVD. If Honeysuckles owners is still Kenneth Alexander then it should be of note he is a big gambler. Has to be factored in.
 
charlie said:
It has to be in consideration, market certainly says so. The CH doesn’t look too strong especially in the absence of BVD. If Honeysuckles owners is still Kenneth Alexander then it should be of note he is a big gambler. Has to be factored in.
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And he's probably had all of the 7's that Paddy Power were offering for the Mares. She is made for that race. 2 1/2 miles is her trip. Perfect for her. Ricci might be tempted with Benie though....he's done it before with a mare.
 
Humble Pie said:
Pocket talking Jack :)
Must have been a great day
It was certainly a v good betting day
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Haha pocket talking is right!
Lobos said:
And he's probably had all of the 7's that Paddy Power were offering for the Mares. She is made for that race. 2 1/2 miles is her trip. Perfect for her. Ricci might be tempted with Benie though....he's done it before with a mare.
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Yep that's true, but Mullins has KD, Saldier + Sharjah as bullets for an open Champion.

Henry and the owner have nothing currently. Will that count towards their decision? Who knows. A bit like Envoi's owners, we can't be certain what route they'd take as they haven't any previous!
 
Lobos said:
And he's probably had all of the 7's that Paddy Power were offering for the Mares. She is made for that race. 2 1/2 miles is her trip. Perfect for her. Ricci might be tempted with Benie though....he's done it before with a mare.
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Don’t get me wrong, Mares is more likely. I’d put it at 75/25.

I’ve been guilty of drawing lines through horses going to other races because it doesn’t suit my pocket and it’s a mistake. You are in a good position for the mares so at 10/1 I would protect your £100 stake on mares with a £10 stake on champion. Trip wise, horses that thrive over 2 1/2 do well in the champion hurdle because you need to be able to get up that hill.
 
What a days racing. I’m glad I nabbed Honeysuckle at 40’s for the CH a few days ago before she was slashed. I think she will be aimed at the Mares race myself this year. It’s still early doors for some horses in the CH market and I still think KD will improve and we’ve still not seen a few race yet like Pentland Hills
 
charlie said:
Don’t get me wrong, Mares is more likely. I’d put it at 75/25.

I’ve been guilty of drawing lines through horses going to other races because it doesn’t suit my pocket and it’s a mistake. You are in a good position for the mares so at 10/1 I would protect your £100 stake on mares with a £10 stake on champion. Trip wise, horses that thrive over 2 1/2 do well in the champion hurdle because you need to be able to get up that hill.
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Proven course form v potential

Honeysuckle worthy adversary, for me BDD

Honeysuckle has raced under rules at Fairyhouse and once at Thurles which also has a steep uphill finish
In a v open Champion Hurdle ( perhaps not so open if KD settles and improves hurdling ? ) I’d be surprised if Honeysuckle goes CH but ....
I believe Lobos has covered his “ oner” in the Mares with a “ tenner” in CH
Personally I’d have had £50 ew in the Mares
 
Honeysuckle has yet to race left-handed, and she might not get the chance to do so at Christmas either as De Bromhead suggested she might skip Leopardstown, where she is in the two-mile and three-mile Grade 1s. He deflected the prospect of aiming her at the Irish Champion Hurdle, although he didn’t rule it out completely.

“The Mares’ Hurdle would obviously be high on our agenda at Cheltenham. Between now and then, we’ll have to see,” he said.
 
Think there is a very small chance Honey will go Champion which is why I covered her small stakes at 40's. Most likely a wasted punt though. As for Envoi, anyone who thinks he will go Champion Hurdle is completely wasting their time. Zero chance.
 
Lobos said:
Think there is a very small chance Honey will go Champion which is why I covered her small stakes at 40's. Most likely a wasted punt though. As for Envoi, anyone who thinks he will go Champion Hurdle is completely wasting their time. Zero chance.
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You know the owners well, Lobos?
 
jack1092 said:
You know the owners well, Lobos?
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Don't need to, it's just ridiculous that anyone would think connections would send him down that route this season. I can't be the only one who thinks this surely ??
 
Lobos said:
Think there is a very small chance Honey will go Champion which is why I covered her small stakes at 40's. Most likely a wasted punt though. As for Envoi, anyone who thinks he will go Champion Hurdle is completely wasting their time. Zero chance.
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Investing a small stake at 40/1 to cover the only other race she can go to in order to protect a large lump is sensible betting, not wasted punting. Even more so when you factor in how highly you rate her. Re Envoi Allen, not a mare :)
 
charlie said:
Investing a small stake at 40/1 to cover the only other race she can go to in order to protect a large lump is sensible betting, not wasted punting. Even more so when you factor in how highly you rate her. Re Envoi Allen, not a mare :)
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Thank you. There are at least two sane people on here...phew.
 
charlie said:
Investing a small stake at 40/1 to cover the only other race she can go to in order to protect a large lump is sensible betting, not wasted punting. Even more so when you factor in how highly you rate her. Re Envoi Allen, not a mare :)
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She probably wont, but she could go for the stayers with a winning chance. You never know something might happen to paisley park, and she'd be around an even money shot.
 
Scooby91 said:
She probably wont, but she could go for the stayers with a winning chance. You never know something might happen to paisley park, and she'd be around an even money shot.
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I suppose it could happen but far too many ifs buts and maybes to give it any more than a moments thought. I was 75/25 on mares / champion (want her in champion). Putting the stayers into that equation I’d say 75/20/5.
 
charlie said:
I suppose it could happen but far too many ifs buts and maybes to give it any more than a moments thought. I was 75/25 on mares / champion (want her in champion). Putting the stayers into that equation I’d say 75/20/5.
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Probably 98 1 1. In all reality. But hopefully a pleasant surprise. For competitions sake.
 
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