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Mares Hurdle 2018

Scooby91 said:
It's more down to opposition with me personally. There's nothing there really that should be beating her. I'm going to have to leave this race completely alone personally as I see no value anywhere.
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There may be some value on the day in the W/O AJ market. I won't be steaming into AJ unless the bookies push her close to evens, which is possible.

The lack of opposition is a problem in the Mares division for me, with last year's renewal being the exception rather than the norm.
 
Kevloaf said:
A horse can still be value at odds on .... however can appreciate if you've got a rule and evens is the cut off you stick to it.

Kayf Grace is the one I like for the places
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The Festival, more so than any other meeting, is when I am willing to back an odds on shot if they have excellent form such as AJ here. In recent years these hotspots have tended to win a lot so I think they are great value for multiples. Douvan was an exception last year as he picked up an injury - people using this as evidence not to back odds on are mistaken I believe.
 
Vautour said:
The Festival, more so than any other meeting, is when I am willing to back an odds on shot if they have excellent form such as AJ here. In recent years these hotspots have tended to win a lot so I think they are great value for multiples. Douvan was an exception last year as he picked up an injury - people using this as evidence not to back odds on are mistaken I believe.
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Agreed that's been the case in recent years Vautour but if you were around 20+ years ago Cheltenham was a certified graveyard for odds on shots....
 
I've backed Apple's Jade for this at 3/1 as I've been confident it was the target, 11/4 too in multiples. She was still odds against after her last run and has only gone odds on since NRNB came in.


She is 5/6 now with WH and I'd consider that to still be good value. She is as far clear of her rivals as Annie Power was. Her form is undeniably better, the target is confirmed. Happy with the jockey, trainer and connections winning the race. I see nothing at all to worry her.

I have what I want on and happy with my returns if she wins, but for me, at 5/6 that is a good bet.... I wouldn't be looking elsewhere because she wins bar a fall. With WH money back in injured.... she won't go elsewhere so I don't see the problem
 
I’ve Apples Jade in a load of multiples at between 13/8 and 4/5.

Would be the first of the weeks bankers going in. Always nice to start the banker multiples with a routine win. Which I expect this to be.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I’ve Apples Jade in a load of multiples at between 13/8 and 4/5.

Would be the first of the weeks bankers going in. Always nice to start the banker multiples with a routine win. Which I expect this to be.
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First to go in?

You've not avoided BVD have you :eek::highly_amused:
 
Kevloaf said:
First to go in?

You've not avoided BVD have you :eek::highly_amused:
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I’m on Faugheen from the start of the season. Assuming he turns up, I wouldn’t make BD a banker at odds on against Faugheen.

The Faugheen from his first run this season turns up and he’d beat BD.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I’m on Faugheen from the start of the season. Assuming he turns up, I wouldn’t make BD a banker at odds on against Faugheen.

The Faugheen from his first run this season turns up and he’d beat BD.
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Plenty of chat about that on the CH thread so won't go in to it here...

Even if Faugheen doesn't turn up, I'd still have Apple's Jade as the banker of the day to be fair, even if she isn't shorter. The Mullins mare (whichever it ends up being) will be shorter than it deserves to be.
 
If I knew La Bague Au Roi was going for this race i'd be all over her each way. Her collateral form puts her around Limini, who obviously pushed Apples Jade pretty close in this last year. Yes Apple's Jade seems to have improved, but so has La Bague Au Roi (especially for the trip), and it would be nice to have some cover for Apple's Jade. 14/1 is huge and wondering if it's worth the punt, 10/1 nrnb obviously a safer bet
 
Robbante said:
If I knew La Bague Au Roi was going for this race i'd be all over her each way. Her collateral form puts her around Limini, who obviously pushed Apples Jade pretty close in this last year. Yes Apple's Jade seems to have improved, but so has La Bague Au Roi (especially for the trip), and it would be nice to have some cover for Apple's Jade. 14/1 is huge and wondering if it's worth the punt, 10/1 nrnb obviously a safer bet
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Cheltenham form a worry I guess, underperformed last year and not sure there were any excuses for her
 
I would rather back Let’s Dance @ 5/1 EW than Apples Jade @ 5/6, at this stage.
 
Kevloaf said:
Plenty of chat about that on the CH thread so won't go in to it here...

Even if Faugheen doesn't turn up, I'd still have Apple's Jade as the banker of the day to be fair, even if she isn't shorter. The Mullins mare (whichever it ends up being) will be shorter than it deserves to be.
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I make the bankers of the meeting, in this order:
1) Apples Jade
2) Altior
3) Samcro
4) Apples Shakira
5) Burning Ambition
 
Middle_Of_March said:
I make the bankers of the meeting, in this order:
1) Apples Jade
2) Altior
3) Samcro
4) Apples Shakira
5) Burning Ambition
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That's a brave call. Apples Jade, yes, not so sure about the others yet.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Banker was the wrong word to use. I should’ve said ‘horses I’m most confident in winning’
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That's definite more like it, and I like the confidence behind these. Just read your thoughts on the Foxhunters thread so I am definite going to keep an eye on that one :)
 
ComplyOrDie said:
That's definite more like it, and I like the confidence behind these. Just read your thoughts on the Foxhunters thread so I am definite going to keep an eye on that one :)
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Best case scenario for me is my many many trixies from this season of Apples Shakira, Samcro and Altior all turn up and win. Apples Jade is in a few for Yankees.

Burning Ambition I’ve done in multiples but, at the 10/1 he was available, is a decent single bet.






Back to this race though.. what do we genuinely feel will be up against her on the day?

Benie Des Dieux I backed for any race at 14/1 at the start of the season based on rich riccis comments about her. But I had her as a Ryanair sort really as she’s a chaser. Plus she’s had a setback I’ve heard.

Limini running here? Let’s dance? VVM retired yet? La vague au roi to the stayers? Asides from AJ, the opposition are full f question marks if you ask me.
 
Middle_Of_March said:
Best case scenario for me is my many many trixies from this season of Apples Shakira, Samcro and Altior all turn up and win. Apples Jade is in a few for Yankees.

Burning Ambition I’ve done in multiples but, at the 10/1 he was available, is a decent single bet.






Back to this race though.. what do we genuinely feel will be up against her on the day?

Benie Des Dieux I backed for any race at 14/1 at the start of the season based on rich riccis comments about her. But I had her as a Ryanair sort really as she’s a chaser. Plus she’s had a setback I’ve heard.

Limini running here? Let’s dance? VVM retired yet? La vague au roi to the stayers? Asides from AJ, the opposition are full f question marks if you ask me.
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Limini is out for the season isn't she? That's why I conclude that AJ is now the banker!
 
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