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March ‘25 Yankee

First time I have read a Yankee thread after being on here for just the 12 months :beguiled:

It's been a great read. Plenty of insight. Who is sticking around through the summer? I will work on the books quietly but my main plan is to just lump on The Lion In Winter for the 2000 Guineas and Derby and Lake Victoria in the 1000 guineas and Oaks
 
First time I have read a Yankee thread after being on here for just the 12 months :beguiled:

It's been a great read. Plenty of insight. Who is sticking around through the summer? I will work on the books quietly but my main plan is to just lump on The Lion In Winter for the 2000 Guineas and Derby and Lake Victoria in the 1000 guineas and Oaks

We've got a flat thread going on.

FYI it seems like Lake Victoria might not make it or go to the 1000, BEX and oddschecker are reflecting that.

Similar comments made about TLIW from Aidan about not rushing them.

Desert Flower backed recently for the 1000 as well as Ancient Truth for the 2000
 
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We've got a flat thread going on.

FYI it seems like Lake Victoria might not make it or go to the 1000, BEX and oddschecker are reflecting that.

Similar comments made about TLIW from Aidan about not rushing them.

Desert Flower backed recently for the 1000 as well as Ancient Truth for the 2000

Thanks Holden, i will pop over. Desert Flower looked like a machine. Looking forward to seeing her progression for the master.
 
First time I have read a Yankee thread after being on here for just the 12 months :beguiled:

It's been a great read. Plenty of insight. Who is sticking around through the summer? I will work on the books quietly but my main plan is to just lump on The Lion In Winter for the 2000 Guineas and Derby and Lake Victoria in the 1000 guineas and Oaks


…there are some who stick around through the flat season and we always try and facilitate a discussion every month in the Yankee thread.

We obviously have Aintree in April and Punchestown starts at the end of that month. I’ll put up the April thread tomorrow but we have rolling Captains so any volunteers will be really appreciated.
 
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There seem to be a few newbies who look like they'll be active during the Summer.
As Eggs has said there are a few decent NG meetings upcoming, Aintree, Ayr, Fairyhouse, Punchestown, Sandown and a bit further down the line there's the Swinton hurdle and the Summer Cups plus of course endless top flat meetings if people are interested.
We should make a better job of tracking the 2026 Cheltenham prices this off season too, any significant movement should create discussion, there used to be a thread somewhere...
 
Oh yeah, i will be here for Aintree. I have cunningly booked my MOT for the Thursday and a Friday pick up :untroubled:
 
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Oh yeah, i will be here for Aintree. I have cunningly booked my MOT for the Thursday and a Friday pick up :untroubled:

Top planning. Are you going to Aintree? Isn't it in your neck of the woods?
 
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Top planning. Are you going to Aintree? Isn't it in your neck of the woods?

I'm not FM. It isn't that far away. About 20 miles. The race day experience up here isn't very enjoyable any more. I know it's probably the same in most places but Haydock and Aintree have major drug problems. Its like trying to get through Tony Montana's prison camp attempting to go to the toilet. I don't understand how folk can't just enjoy a drink. Fighting, everyone squeezing into the bogs for some Colombian marching powder, throwing beer. Just don't enjoy attending any more. I like to go further a field. I was planning on heading to Ripon with the ex for a weekend and taking in Fountains Abbey, been to the Abbey a few times but not the races but, well, she is now an ex :biggrin-new: and im not going on my bill :emmersed: love the summer racing, even if its just sat in the garden with a bucket of alcohol :biggrin-new:
 
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I'm not FM. It isn't that far away. About 20 miles. The race day experience up here isn't very enjoyable any more. I know it's probably the same in most places but Haydock and Aintree have major drug problems. Its like trying to get through Tony Montana's prison camp attempting to go to the toilet. I don't understand how folk can't just enjoy a drink. Fighting, everyone squeezing into the bogs for some Colombian marching powder, throwing beer. Just don't enjoy attending any more. I like to go further a field. I was planning on heading to Ripon with the ex for a weekend and taking in Fountains Abbey, been to the Abbey a few times but not the races but, well, she is now an ex :biggrin-new: and im not going on my bill :emmersed: love the summer racing, even if its just sat in the garden with a bucket of alcohol :biggrin-new:

You should give Aintree on the Thursday a try. I've been going for around 15 years and haven't seen any trouble - it's my favourite day of racing. I have noticed the long queues of lads waiting for the toilet cubicles as soon as the gates open though! It's sad really.
 
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You should give Aintree on the Thursday a try. I've been going for around 15 years and haven't seen any trouble - it's my favourite day of racing. I have noticed the long queues of lads waiting for the toilet cubicles as soon as the gates open though! It's sad really.

I'd support that. Mind you, I enjoy the Friday too. Both cracking days out.
 
Too late for the Yankee as I’m only just working my way through the Raceform. Having got to the Mares Novice and having thought through my pocket that Sixandahalf had it won I was amazed to see Air Of Entitlement now her down. Neither were stopping as the growing distance to the rest of the field indicates. The winner must be some mare and her breeding indicates that the 2m3f of the Mares next year will be right up her street. This has to be her destination. I have a strong feeling about this one and 12/1 looks a fair price in my opinion.
 
Too late for the Yankee as I’m only just working my way through the Raceform. Having got to the Mares Novice and having thought through my pocket that Sixandahalf had it won I was amazed to see Air Of Entitlement now her down. Neither were stopping as the growing distance to the rest of the field indicates. The winner must be some mare and her breeding indicates that the 2m3f of the Mares next year will be right up her street. This has to be her destination. I have a strong feeling about this one and 12/1 looks a fair price in my opinion.

I'd be very surprised if Air of Entitlement isn't a lot better than Sixandahalf next season

She's much bigger, much less experienced and a proper national hunt slow burner.

The question is does she stay over hurdles or go chasing?

She's by westerner out of a stowaway mare which is a proper chasing pedigree

I'd need to hear something either way and need to know the plans for Brighterdaysahead and jade de grugy before backing her for either race.
 
Stupid question why is it always better to do a manual Yankee? Is this for potential cash out?

I was thinking more for maximum payouts

but cash out too yea
 
Many thanks to Eggs for allowing me to select this months yankee.

I agree with the general sentiment that we need to be fairly positive about a horses destination. So that has helped slim down the options put forward. That does, unfortunately, mean that prices are a little slimmer. I've also avoided the races which historically don't form until later on in the season (Ryanair, Novice Hurdles) and those which could be subject to change (Mares Hurdle and Mares Chase).

First up, I think Inothewayurthinkin - Gold Cup @ 5/1 has to go on in. First put forward by darlojim and well supported by others. On RPR's he and Galopin Des Champs are the only horses to post 180+. At 7yo, he is young enough to eek out further improvement too. I think it is generally accepted that GDC wasn't at his best this year, but he still ran creditably and the distance back to Montys Star and Gentlemansgame underscores the magnitude of the performance. The way Cromwell is talking, I would be surprised if we saw him again this year so we are unlikely to get a better price between now and the start of next season.

The novices progressing in to open company don't light my fire this year whereby I think the winner will come from this years open company horses. Fact To File could come here, but the way he raced with the choke out at a fast pace over 2m4f doesn't lend itself to the Gold Cup Trip. Realistically, I think it's between Inothewayurthinkin and GDC again.

Next up, Teahupoo - Stayers Hurdle @ 6/1. First put forward by AaronLad. Another solid selection who's target is obvious. Whilst he doesn't have the ability of Inothewayurthinkin, he is competing in a significantly lesser division. He ran creditably this year despite conditions going against him. He's highly unlikely to run on better ground next year. Competition looks thin on the ground. Jasmin De Vaux and Ballyburn could potentially shake up the market, but I can't see Teahupoo being an e/w price on the day even if they do come this way. I mulled over Rockys Diamond who was put forward a couple of times. He is a great price and has scope to improve being a 5yo, but the worry is he goes chasing - and we want a runner.

Third is William Munny - Arkle @ 12/1 first put up byCJW Target confirmed by his trainer. The Arkle could have a few quality horses running in it, but it doesn't look like being the deepest division. History tells us that (normally) one of the better novice hurdlers wins the Arkle. And this chap is the second highest rated hurdler over the shorter trip. He has a real engine and looks a chaser too. I think Kopek Des Bordes was a good winner of the Supreme, but William Munny showed enough to convince me that he could reverse the form should he get a better break of the ball or take to fences better. I can't see Romeo reversing form with WIlliam Munny over fences. Lulamba offers another potential class angle in the race, but he will need to improve and 5yo's in open races ... The Yellow Clay could be interesting here, but he has four potential destinations and the Arkle would be 3rd or 4th favourite in that list. If Kopek Des Bordes was to stay hurdling, then this chap would be my favourite for the race.

The final selection is Kitzbuhel - BANC @ 20/1 who was probably the most suggested horse in the thread. This looks a really deep division next year, but there isn't an obvious superstar. Final Demand is a worthy favourite, but he looks far from bullet proof, particularly if the ground were to come up G/S or better. Kitzbuhel looks all over a staying chaser, and the removal of the Golden Miller Chase makes it short odds on that this would be his long term target. Related to Al Boum Photo, he is bread to get the trip. I also like the fact that he didn't go to the festival this year. He's been brought along slowly.

Honourable mentions to State Man and Marine Nationale. State Man is the wrong price (16/1) but it does look a deep division. Marine Nationale is the only horse at the front of the market who will definitely run over 2m next year who doesn't have a significant injury concern. But, there is every chance that Sir Gino returns and that JP sends 1 or 2 very good darts so the 8/1 may well hold for a long while.

So the yankee is:
  • Inothewayurthinkin - Gold Cup @ 5/1
  • Teahupoo - Stayers Hurdle @ 6/1
  • William Munny - Arkle @ 12/1
  • Kitzbuhel - BANC @ 20/1
9701/1 best priced with Hills.

Cheers all.


…..little bit of interest in this one now @Exar Essay, fingers crossed we get at least one to go with 20-1 winner.