jonthehammer
Previous Lurker
- Joined
- Feb 23, 2015
- Messages
- 1,807
- Reaction score
- 165
- Points
- 0
-
HELP US - Become a Patron - Fat Jockey is a horse racing community focused on all the big races in the UK and Ireland. We don't charge users but if you have found the site useful then any support towards the running costs is appreciated ... a small donation each month would be a huge contribution. Become a Patron!
JLT Novices 2018
- Thread starter Innoko
- Start date
ComplyOrDie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021) & Moderator
I can't believe I am going to say this, but I can genuinely see Finian's Oscar turning up and running a fair race in this now.
I've been looking at the market, and come up with the following:
Willoughby Court will go hard at the front end, as he normally does, may not lead but he will certainly be up with the pace, could potentially be susceptible to a horse staying on.
Footpad is very likely to run in the Arkle.
I can only imagine one of Invitation Only or Al Boum Photo running in this race, I believe Al Boum Photo to be the more talented so he'd be a danger.
I believe the form with Benatar will be overturned on a stiffer track like Cheltenham and off levels!
Terrefort is no guarantee to run, after listening to Henderson.
Monalee's race is up in the air currently, but I believe will be in the RSA.
Yanworth won't be coming here according to Alan King.
Petit Mouchoir is very likely to run in the Arkle.
Kemboy probably deserves more respect than he gets but was beaten by a since disappointing Sutton Place.
And I can't really have any of the others on current form.
So, really, aside from Willoughby Court & one of either Invitation Only or Al Boum Photo I don't see much else in the way of Finian's Oscar at least hitting a place, and potentially better.
I am very much putting the trust in Tizzard to have sorted his breathing and jumping out, but I'm convinved IF he turns up then all is well, because last season he missed the festival because of a 'minor' set back, so he won't turn up unless 100%.
12/1 NRNB is a huge price IMO, and one I am now keen on taking.
I've been looking at the market, and come up with the following:
Willoughby Court will go hard at the front end, as he normally does, may not lead but he will certainly be up with the pace, could potentially be susceptible to a horse staying on.
Footpad is very likely to run in the Arkle.
I can only imagine one of Invitation Only or Al Boum Photo running in this race, I believe Al Boum Photo to be the more talented so he'd be a danger.
I believe the form with Benatar will be overturned on a stiffer track like Cheltenham and off levels!
Terrefort is no guarantee to run, after listening to Henderson.
Monalee's race is up in the air currently, but I believe will be in the RSA.
Yanworth won't be coming here according to Alan King.
Petit Mouchoir is very likely to run in the Arkle.
Kemboy probably deserves more respect than he gets but was beaten by a since disappointing Sutton Place.
And I can't really have any of the others on current form.
So, really, aside from Willoughby Court & one of either Invitation Only or Al Boum Photo I don't see much else in the way of Finian's Oscar at least hitting a place, and potentially better.
I am very much putting the trust in Tizzard to have sorted his breathing and jumping out, but I'm convinved IF he turns up then all is well, because last season he missed the festival because of a 'minor' set back, so he won't turn up unless 100%.
12/1 NRNB is a huge price IMO, and one I am now keen on taking.
I agree CoD, and I hope you're right as Finians Oscar in this is a leg of what looks a very strong Lucky 15 for me:
Samcro @ 16's
UDS @ 8's
Might Bite @8's
Finians Oscar @ 12's
I hope Tizzard gets FO to the fez safe and sound and at least gives us a glimmer of hope!
ComplyOrDie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021) & Moderator
Which horse in particular do you like for this? Besides possibly Kemboy, as you'll undoubtedly like him
archie
Fat Jockey Patron
- Joined
- Feb 27, 2017
- Messages
- 4,872
- Reaction score
- 1,281
- Points
- 83
Which horse in particular do you like for this? Besides possibly Kemboy, as you'll undoubtedly like him
If he gets there I'd be hopeful that Kemboy could place but, essentially, I'd expect any of the top 3 in the Flogas to be good enough and Ruby's choice to go off favourite.
SeanRock
Member
- Joined
- Mar 13, 2016
- Messages
- 2,304
- Reaction score
- 648
- Points
- 83
Based on the current vibes from the Mullins/HdB's camps would lead you to believe that only one of the top three from the Flogas will end up here in the JLT. That being Invitation Only.
He ran a nice race in Leopardstown last weekend but i think Willoughby Court will make the 2m 5f around Cheltenham a proper test bowling along in front as he did in the Neptune last year and Invitation Only may struggle to get home.
There's no juice left in his price but I don't really get the negative opions on him many seem to have. I was anticipating him not performing to his best in the Dipper. Giving away 5lbs to Yanworth and the heavy going meant he couldn't realistically apply his front running tactics that he seems to relish. That coupled with Paulings bad run of form for January due to illness in the stable means i can put a line through that race.
He's been there & done it over 2m 5f in March last year against a very well fancied and talented horse in Neon Wolf and found loads for pressure up the hill. He looked the type to me to be even stronger over fences and in the main has jumped very well this season after taking a few fences to warm to his task on debut. The form of that race has worked out well with Cassablanca Mix winning well next time out and falling when having the race won on her next start. I won't be looking elsewhere in the JLT and I'm happy with the price i took after the Dipper.
He ran a nice race in Leopardstown last weekend but i think Willoughby Court will make the 2m 5f around Cheltenham a proper test bowling along in front as he did in the Neptune last year and Invitation Only may struggle to get home.
There's no juice left in his price but I don't really get the negative opions on him many seem to have. I was anticipating him not performing to his best in the Dipper. Giving away 5lbs to Yanworth and the heavy going meant he couldn't realistically apply his front running tactics that he seems to relish. That coupled with Paulings bad run of form for January due to illness in the stable means i can put a line through that race.
He's been there & done it over 2m 5f in March last year against a very well fancied and talented horse in Neon Wolf and found loads for pressure up the hill. He looked the type to me to be even stronger over fences and in the main has jumped very well this season after taking a few fences to warm to his task on debut. The form of that race has worked out well with Cassablanca Mix winning well next time out and falling when having the race won on her next start. I won't be looking elsewhere in the JLT and I'm happy with the price i took after the Dipper.
Last edited:
I think hell get beat today. But hope he dosent . A very thorough test all be it a small field. He's not entitled to win
Folski
Member
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2018
- Messages
- 735
- Reaction score
- 63
- Points
- 28
He needs to get back and running, a graduatuon chase is made for horses like him. would be the perfect start for me. Theres no way they'd stick him straight in a big field handicap on his 1st run back. Hes a horse of potential but no experience of the english fences or race pace of an english track. The previous owner made the mistake of losing his novice status.
Last edited:
Colin Tizzard is hopeful Finian's Oscar will be fit to run at next month's Cheltenham Festival after undergoing a wind operation
The dual Grade One-winning hurdler looked an exciting addition to the chasing ranks after winning on his first two starts over fences at Chepstow and Cheltenham, but was well beaten in the Henry VIII Novices' Chase at Sandown before being touched off by Benatar in a Grade Two at Ascot.
He was pulled up on his return to the smaller obstacles in last month's Cleeve Hurdle at Cheltenham, but Tizzard is keeping his fingers crossed he will bounce back to his best in the spring.
He said: "He has had his palate cauterised and is back cantering.
"With a minor operation like that, you can have them back running in a month. He should be fine for Cheltenham."
Finian's Oscar is entered in the Stayers' Hurdle, the JLT Novices' Chase and the RSA Insurance Novices' Chase at Prestbury Park in March.
The dual Grade One-winning hurdler looked an exciting addition to the chasing ranks after winning on his first two starts over fences at Chepstow and Cheltenham, but was well beaten in the Henry VIII Novices' Chase at Sandown before being touched off by Benatar in a Grade Two at Ascot.
He was pulled up on his return to the smaller obstacles in last month's Cleeve Hurdle at Cheltenham, but Tizzard is keeping his fingers crossed he will bounce back to his best in the spring.
He said: "He has had his palate cauterised and is back cantering.
"With a minor operation like that, you can have them back running in a month. He should be fine for Cheltenham."
Finian's Oscar is entered in the Stayers' Hurdle, the JLT Novices' Chase and the RSA Insurance Novices' Chase at Prestbury Park in March.
ComplyOrDie
Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021) & Moderator
Tizzard has got his yard fired up now haha!
All systems go for Cheltenham where FO absolutely hacks up.....
SeanRock
Member
- Joined
- Mar 13, 2016
- Messages
- 2,304
- Reaction score
- 648
- Points
- 83
The horse is afraid of jumping fences, a wind op won’t help him with that ��
The horse is afraid of jumping fences, a wind op won’t help him with that
Haha certainly not. Help him run faster for longer between them and towards the line though
Haha certainly not. Help him run faster for longer between them and towards the line though
If only a cauterised pallet works wonders like that for every horse . Nichols does it as a precaution with the vast majority of his horses over the summer it's very minor.
A hot iron is used to stiffen the pallet to stop it coming loose and blocking the airways
Last edited:
Folski
Member
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2018
- Messages
- 735
- Reaction score
- 63
- Points
- 28
For the FO fans it looks like Cooper has lost the ride. This is based on the fact Cobden, O'Brien & Scu have been riding potts horses since Cooper PU Finian's.
I am from same town in Ireland as him and have heard he is considering retirement.
I am from same town in Ireland as him and have heard he is considering retirement.
BigChaang
Sha Tin Expert and FJ Patron
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2017
- Messages
- 5,615
- Reaction score
- 903
- Points
- 83
Had a bet today , Divine spear . Nicky henderson trained , has 3 entries this week ,(2 over this distance) and One for
cheltenham , the J.L.T.,.
33-1 with william hills. sounds to me like h'es aiming here , Has won his last 2 starts.
cheltenham , the J.L.T.,.
33-1 with william hills. sounds to me like h'es aiming here , Has won his last 2 starts.
He mentioned a target on his blog a few times. Have a look cant remember which race, though it was a handicap.