I like Dinaria Des Obeaux too Scooby, and may bet her if she is a price, but ideally I'd like to see Death Duty and Rathvinden pull well clear of the rest of these and stamp their authority.
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JLT Novices 2018
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Thats a big ask montjeu in such a competative race, id be very happy if that was the case, but we will soon see.
Shocking fall for Tin soldier last time out. I'd have to wait to see how he is, where he goes etc...
Yeah definitely, thought he wasn't getting up at one stage. Just thinking out loud, throwing out some potential runners. Won't be backing at this stage, not a race I massively get involved with ante post anyway.
There's alot there especially ricci s who could go 4 miles.
Arbre de vie
Some neck
Turcagua
Live love laugh
Pylonthepressure
All want a trip.
Right you are, they've all gone under my radar. Ricci sounded particularly keen on Turcagua last night.
I can see why to be fair he did look a chaser and has some good form behind death duty / monalee. won't necessarily make the very top grade over fences but he should do better than he did over hurdles.
Happy to take on Death Duty at 4/7 in the Drinmore. 10/3 Rathvinden, and 10/1 Dinaria, looks more than fair to me, and I can only see those getting shorter once the market takes proper shape. I have Death Duty backed for any race at the festival so I won't count it as a loser if he wins nicely, as I said, ideally himself or Rathvinden put in a good display. Will be a strong formline to take into the JLT whoever wins.
Aslong as they are declared. Death duty would lookl too short. Not sure giggi will declare them all though
I really think Death Duty will go this race, think they'll swerve the RSA (just gut feeling). Back him for the JLT before he wins the Drinmore cosily.
I imagine that'll be my mindset too RC... although might not bet at all depending on how short Rathvinden gets
ComplyOrDie
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The exchanges would tell a different story, though shouldn't be the reason for a definite decision or bet on him, but over £2.5k for the RSA, as opposed to the £850 odd for the JLT in traded money. Before Monalee come out DD was by far the most backed horse for the RSA on the exchanges than any other.
Just to put in to context, Finian's Oscar has over £3k traded on him for the JLT, so the DD money is minimal in comparison, and I'd suspect is people using it as cover should they go for this race instead. Of course, my belief, despite the ramblings on about the exchanges are that he will head to the RSA anyway.
Don't understand any love for DD. The two times he's raced at the very top level (Cheltenham and Punchestown) he's been found wanting by a distance. I don't see anything to suggest that he's improved that much for a fence that he'll be winning anything at those two festivals this year either. Many of the horses that have already beaten him will be reopposing whatever race he takes in, so they all have him covered as far as I can see
Death duty has always looked a chaser and bumpers / hurdles just been waiting until he gets here. His run at punchestown was good to be fair was the strongest novice race of the season imo. Id be pretty sure he will make a better chaser but hes got questions to answer on spring ground over the shorter trip. Sunday is His biggest test to date, stating the obvious.
Monalee and Finian's Oscar have always looked chasers too - Monalee was giving him a good beating over a longer trip at Cheltenham before DD came down, Finian's beat him comfortably at Punchestown over the shorter trip. Regardless of whether he wins on Sunday he's one i'm happy to leave alone for the festival
I respect your decision, not inclined to believe Gordon 100% But he certainly wasn't 100% in the bartlett whether that was him being sick like Gordon Said or the good ground I'm not sure. But he did give monalee a good beating previously.
ComplyOrDie
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Was just about to point this out, however I do respect all that has been said before. Finian's Oscar is on another level for me, I'm a big fan, like many on here, and as I see FO turning up for this, given how competitive the Arkle is beginning to look, in turn I can see connections of DD rather take on Monalee than FO IMO, knowing they've beat that one before. The horse stays 3m, that I have no question of, but to what level is my only concern. But I do believe in the horse and he's one I like, would prefer soft ground admittedly.