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Irish Grand National 2015

I have a strong fancy for The Job is Right, missed the 20's with the High St but managed to back the win at 20 on Betfair and 4.5 place.
Two others who could go well at big prices, Rogue Angel and Usuel Smurfer, if there's a race in the calendar where you shouldn't be afraid to back at big prices this is it.
 
I have a strong fancy for The Job is Right, missed the 20's with the High St but managed to back the win at 20 on Betfair and 4.5 place.
Two others who could go well at big prices, Rogue Angel and Usuel Smurfer, if there's a race in the calendar where you shouldn't be afraid to back at big prices this is it.

the job is right ticks a lot of boxes. Novice - trainer - prep. Weight a small concern.

I had overlooked Rogue Angel but seems a big price - could be a big week for Nina and Mouse.
 
I had overlooked Rogue Angel but seems a big price - could be a big week for Nina and Mouse.

He ran a cracker in the Cheltenham 4 miler last season beaten 4.5l and had horses like Foxrock and Milborough behind, runs well fresh and been off since January, his form this season isn't great but maybe the break will work.
I'm sure there'll be worse 50/1 shots running tomorrow....
 
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So here we are, National week. One of those unusual years in which days rather than weeks separate the Crabbie’s Aintree Grand National and the BoyleSports Irish one.

There are many differences between the two versions. There are the fences for starters, big and spruce and green but softer these days at Aintree, most of them named; smaller but still big, and black and birch and tough at Fairyhouse, and none of them named, with the possible exception of the ‘one at Ballyhack’.

There is the age thing too. Like, if you are a seven-year-old at Aintree, you are trying to build a bridge back to the war years (Bogskar, 1940) and if you are eight you are talking of Bindaree in 2002, just the third eight-year-old winner since Red Rum’s first in 1973. Even if you are nine, you are looking back six year’s to the last one. (National archive.) It is an older horse’s race.

Not so the Irish one. Shutthefrontdoor last year was seven, Liberty Counsel and Lion Na Bearnai were both 10, Organisedconfusion was six, Bluesea Cracker and Niche Market were eight. Indeed, in the last decade, every age from six to 10 inclusive was represented in the winner’s enclosure. In the last 20 years, the race has been won by a six-year-old once, a seven-year-old six times, an eight-year-old five times, a nine-year-old three times, a 10-year-old four times and even an 11-year-old once. From an age perspective, it’s anybody’s race. (National lottery.)

The weight factor in the Irish National is big, however, possibly even bigger than it is at Aintree. While Hedgehunter pushed through the 11st barrier at Aintree in 2005, and Don’t Push It and Neptune Collonges have both proven since that a high weight does not rule you out, the percentage call at Aintree is still to look for a horse with a low(ish) weight.

A low weight is even more important at Fairyhouse. Only one horse (Shutthefrontdoor last year) has carried more than 10st 8lb to victory in the last decade, and only two have carried more than 10st 5lb. In the last 20 years, only the top class Flashing Steel, subsequent Aintree National winner Bobbyjo and subsequent Heineken Gold Cup winner and Cheltenham Gold Cup runner-up Commanche Court have carried big weights to victory in the Irish National. You really should start your search at the bottom of the handicap.

Take Empire to solve National riddle
Empire Of Dirt’s handicap rating of 132 sees him set to carry just 10st 2lb, and highly-talented Luke Dempsey’s 5lb claim takes his weight down to 9st 11lb, a weight that he can easily do. That gives Gigginstown House horse a real chance.

He is a nicely progressive novice chaser, the type of horse who can do really well in the Irish National. He was a good novice hurdler last season, just below top class, but he is built to jump fences and he has been steadily progressive all season since tackling the larger obstacles.

He looked certain to win a two-mile-six-furlong handicap chase at Thurles in January when he bounded clear off the home turn, but he came down at the tricky second last fence. He actually jumped the fence well, but the ground runs away from you a little on the landing side, and that just caught him out.

He made amends next time at Naas, however, in a good two-and-a-half-mile novices’ handicap chase. Always handy, he eased his way to the front as they embarked on their final circuit, he jumped well and he stayed on well all the way to the line to beat Champagne James by a length, the pair of them clear.

The handicapper raised him 7lb for that, but that was not harsh, it was strong form. Also, it brings him up to a mark of just 132, just 1lb higher than his hurdles mark. Given his size and scope, you have to think that the Colm Murphy-trained gelding will be a better chaser than a hurdler. He is just eight and he has raced just six times over fences, so he has the potential to go a fair way beyond that rating now over fences.

The step up to three miles and five furlongs will be a big step into the unknown. He has never raced over a distance in excess of two miles and six furlongs over fences and, on his only attempt at three miles over hurdles, he disappointed.

That said, he is built and bred to be a staying chaser. By top stayer Westerner, he is a half-brother to staying chaser Panther Claw, and he is out of a mare who won over two miles and six furlongs, a half-sister to Thyestes Chase winner Be My Belle. He should stay three miles at least, and there is every chance that he will stay further. In fact, it is probable that he will improve for the step up to staying trips now. He looks over-priced at 14/1.

There are many others with chances. (It is an Irish National after all.) The Ted Walsh-trained Champagne James has a similar profile to Empire Of Dirt’s, and Barry Connell’s horse could run a big race, although he is another who has to prove his stamina for this extreme trip, and his pedigree is not as stamina-oriented as Empire Of Dirt’s.

The Job Is Right and Perfect Gentleman, from the Michael Hourigan and Willie Mullins yards respectively, represent strong form from the National Hunt Chase, a race that can be a good pointer to the Irish National, while last season’s Thyestes Chase runner-up, the Jim Dreaper-trained Los Amigos, could easily make amends for last year, when he was ruled out of the Irish National at the 11th hour. (National disaster.)

Grand Jesture has more weight than ideal, but Henry de Bromhead’s horse won his beginners’ chase at the track and he ran a cracker to finish second to The Druids Nephew at the Cheltenham Festival. And then there is Cantlow. If Cantlow happened to win it, if AP McCoy could sign off in Ireland with victory in the Irish Grand National, well that would be a strong argument for the instigation of a National holiday.
 
Last bit from Donn - similar approach to race as Segal.
 
I have a strong fancy for The Job is Right, missed the 20's with the High St but managed to back the win at 20 on Betfair and 4.5 place.
Two others who could go well at big prices, Rogue Angel and Usuel Smurfer, if there's a race in the calendar where you shouldn't be afraid to back at big prices this is it.

I have backed him at 20's but I think he may come up short once again. He's had a tough campaign leading up to this and not sure if all those competeive races have taken a toll. Perfect Gentleman will most likely finish ahead of him this time round (hoping 1&2) but the 20's have also gone and half the price now, he will probably go off favourite. I wasn't greedy and took 16's nrnb last week.
 
Had to add Empire of Dirt.

Main bet is Champagne James, with good upside on The Crafty Butcher and EoD.

Ill cover Alpha Victor and Daring article on Betfair.

Too many backed but like to have low weights on side in the IGN.
 
Pricewise nearly put up vics canvass - he was Barry Geraghtys tip in the race according to Nicky in RP
 
Reserves situation not ideal is it...two non runners and Skelton brings a horse from England.
 
Daring Article and She's got grit are amongst 5 that I can find that fulfill the recent trends criteria for this race so I'll take both of these each way, around 25/1 and 40/1

Poxy race for me but a least got a run for my money.
 
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I didn't like Ruby's ride on PG. On ATR he said the horse needs better ground, so in the race he puts the horse on the inside where the ground is most soft. :confused:
 
Plans can change :devilish:

Katie Walsh

KATIE WALSH – 03 APRIL 2015 03:00 AM

Monday is obviously a big day in Irish racing as it's Irish Grand National day and with AP McCoy over to have his final rides in Ireland, there is sure to be even more hype surrounding the three-days.


The Irish Grand National is a race that has been very good to us in the past and with Champagne James set to run on Monday, I hope it's a race that will continue to be very good to us.

Of course, Commanche Court won the race for Dad in 2000, which was the same year as Papillon won the English National and Papillon himself ran a cracker in the Irish National in 1998 when he was second to Bobbyjo.

Jack High was also second in it when Ruby just got up to beat him on Numbersixvalverde for Martin Brassil so it's certainly a race we have plenty of fond memories of.

Champagne James has appeared to come out of his run at Cheltenham very well and while Cheltenham is Cheltenham and is the biggest meeting of the year, you have to be a very sharp-acting horse to go around there and I'd say Champagne James just wants more of a galloping track which he'll certainly get on Monday.

I don't think we are due much rain over the weekend but there is heavy in the description at the moment and the 3m5f is going to take a lot of getting. I'd be hopeful that the trip and the ground will suit Champagne James.

WIDE OPEN

It certainly is a wide open renewal and anyone involved in the race can look forward to a very competitive event. You can make cases for so many. One thing I would question on Monday though is whether a horse will be able to buck out and be handy on that ground and over the trip. If something does he'll be a very good horse.

In the last number of years, the Irish National has been a happy hunting ground for novices and the likes of The Job is Right, Dogora, Perfect Gentleman and Champagne James are just a few that come under that banner.

So if I was having a bet in the race and was unsure of what to back, I'd be siding with a novice who will handle the ground.

I won't be in Fairyhouse on Easter Monday as I'm going to Cork instead to ride Call It Magic for Ross and I wouldn't like to be the person standing beside me if Champagne James is jumping the last in contention!

Call It Magic is a lovely horse who has done well since winning his point-to-point and a bumper wasn't the first choice with him but it seemed pointless to break his novice status so late in the year so hopefully he can repeat what he did in his point-to-point and get the job done on Monday.

I'll be in Fairyhouse on Sunday to ride in the bumper and after Cork on Monday all road will be leading to Aintree.

I think the track will suit him better than Cheltenham.
 
They're all poor races if you don't get a run, but to have two go down at the first is a sickener, I don't put much on these because they are a poor betting proposition, but as a national hunt fan you just feel you want an interest. Not sure if this is worse or getting caught on the run in, one place out of the ew frame is a pain too.
 
They're all poor races if you don't get a run, but to have two go down at the first is a sickener,

Very very unfortunate that, I had both mine on the floor with over a circuit to go so fared no better !
Incredibly there were 6 fallers in the race, all at the first !