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I think D Art D Art is still a decent price in the novice chase. Took a bit of 10s earlier in the week. His beating of Hiddenvalley Lake is solid form against these. Can excuse his defeat last time where he jumped out to his left at most fences and then got left behind for pace. If he is trying then would have a shout though equally, would be a 3rd chase run towards NH Chase qualifying.
 
Anyone else been paid out on Paddys for Pierre Sage getting the sack next? It was settled as a loser originally but just logged in and its been classed as a winner. I laid it off on the exchange at 1.08 when it looked like he was about to go and thats been paid out as a winner too so dunno whats going on but cant complain! Thanks to whoever put it up on here too, not sure who it was but youve done me a nice turn here.
 
Cheltenham tomorrow: any one fancy something. I’m interested in Thunder Rock myself. Reverting to hvps after Hunter chasing. Still only a 10 yr old was rated150 at his peak runs here off 134 in vet hcp ch.
I’ve backed Glengouly in that race, admittedly before decs at a bigger price but I thought he ran well against a few unexposed sorts over a trip shorter than ideal last time out and he has a win a Cheltenham in a more competitive race than this less than 12 months ago.

Woodstock Octo my best bet of the day. Think the horse got Ben Jones out of trouble the last day, I think this is a fairly poor renewal of the race and this horse’s form is better than those at the front of the market.
 
Anyone else been paid out on Paddys for Pierre Sage getting the sack next? It was settled as a loser originally but just logged in and its been classed as a winner. I laid it off on the exchange at 1.08 when it looked like he was about to go and thats been paid out as a winner too so dunno whats going on but cant complain! Thanks to whoever put it up on here too, not sure who it was but youve done me a nice turn here.
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I think D Art D Art is still a decent price in the novice chase. Took a bit of 10s earlier in the week. His beating of Hiddenvalley Lake is solid form against these. Can excuse his defeat last time where he jumped out to his left at most fences and then got left behind for pace. If he is trying then would have a shout though equally, would be a 3rd chase run towards NH Chase qualifying.
Hope a few followed me in, still a decent price even with a R4 from Kings Buck not running.
 
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I'd say that today's non-runner events pretty well vindicate WPM's comments about the going. Called good, good to soft in places but riding the fast side of good.
 
Sobering reading there , not been a full repeat in 60 odd years ,.
It will be Gaelic Warrior's 5th festival appearance if he gets there. No Gold Cup winner has won on their 5th(or more) festival run this century. I think this also applies to the 20 years previously as well,but not absolutely sure on that.
 
I'd say that today's non-runner events pretty well vindicate WPM's comments about the going. Called good, good to soft in places but riding the fast side of good.
Yeah, and Sean Bowen not sounding that pleased with the ground there i thought

Can see Hendo pulling OPS tomorrow

Can see a few chasers not turning up tomorrow the way it’s going today!!

Kabral non runner!!
 
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If the drainage has got better due to the improvements they've made.
Then surely they should have an idea how much extra watering is required.
They simply have to err on the side of Softer and not give a fuck if too much rain comes and it makes it much softer.
The drainage should ensure it never becomes unraceable.
They've lost a potentially really good race tomorrow and it's the courses fault
 
Can't remember reading anything on it but...

Is Sam twiston davies retained by Nicholls nowadays ?
 
Can't remember reading anything on it but...

Is Sam twiston davies retained by Nicholls nowadays ?
He said he doesn’t have a stable jockey but Sam will be one of a few he will use this season
You would imagine he will be his 1st choice if available,that’s the impression I got anyway.

Just seen a quote where he says he has an agreement with Sam that he will ride his better ones, but if his brother also has a good one than he will probably ride Willies.
Sound like a sort of agreement between the two trainers.
 
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If Cheltenham can’t get the ground right then the rest of the courses (that don’t has the same budget or level of equipment) have little chance

From a racing perpestive, it’s rubbish having NR’s.
I would have gone down tomorrow if Kabral and Old Park lined up against each other and we had a full PPGC field, but…

Aware of the challenges resulting from the summer, but at this level… it’s disappointing
 
If Cheltenham can’t get the ground right then the rest of the courses (that don’t has the same budget or level of equipment) have little chance

From a racing perpestive, it’s rubbish having NR’s.
I would have gone down tomorrow if Kabral and Old Park lined up against each other and we had a full PPGC field, but…

Aware of the challenges resulting from the summer, but at this level… it’s disappointing
Poor old Ludlow lost all their meetings for rest of the season.
Way the weather seems to be going Racing may well have a problem .
 
If the drainage has got better due to the improvements they've made.
Then surely they should have an idea how much extra watering is required.
They simply have to err on the side of Softer and not give a fuck if too much rain comes and it makes it much softer.
The drainage should ensure it never becomes unraceable.
They've lost a potentially really good race tomorrow and it's the courses fault
They're surely going to water tonight before tomorrow are they?

They're saying they only water to make sure there ground is safe and not to turn the ground soft. But if the ground is genuinely turning firm then surely they should be watering before tomorrow to just keep it at good. Nobody could really complain about them watering to take any hint of firm out of the description. Very few jumps horses are going to be wanting good to firm instead of good.
 
They're surely going to water tonight before tomorrow are they?

They're saying they only water to make sure there ground is safe and not to turn the ground soft. But if the ground is genuinely turning firm then surely they should be watering before tomorrow to just keep it at good. Nobody could really complain about them watering to take any hint of firm out of the description. Very few jumps horses are going to be wanting good to firm instead of good.
The problem with watering tonight is the frost
 
If the drainage has got better due to the improvements they've made.
Then surely they should have an idea how much extra watering is required.
They simply have to err on the side of Softer and not give a fuck if too much rain comes and it makes it much softer.
The drainage should ensure it never becomes unraceable.
They've lost a potentially really good race tomorrow and it's the courses fault
Apparently they put as much water on prior to today that they could.