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I’m not quite so quick to write this one off, travelled and jumped beautifully and made a shuddering mistake down the back straight, had the look of a landing that would knock the stuffing out of any horse….

Id love to know why they left the tongue tie off again today

They had mooted previous about leaving it off at xmas after his win the next day and left off for today also, made no sense. Is unbeaten with it on with runs in FR too🤣
 
Id love to know why they left the tongue tie off again today

They had mooted previous about leaving it off at xmas after his win the next day and left off for today also, made no sense. Is unbeaten with it on with runs in FR too🤣
Be back on for the county hurdle next season
 
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Id love to know why they left the tongue tie off again today

They had mooted previous about leaving it off at xmas after his win the next day and left off for today also, made no sense. Is unbeaten with it on with runs in FR too🤣
Just a prep run for the grade one at punchestown and the 50k bonus 😂
 
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Had a pop on 2 in the Irish National for a bit of fun.....

Better Days Ahead who goes into the race fresh off just 2 runs this season and Monbeg Genius who came back to form at the Fez and jonjo has won the race a couple of times

Anyone else done anything?
 
Fair drift on Majolique. I might have to chance her at the price now but probably should read more into the drift :LOL:

The Yellow Clay, Found a Fifty and Kovanis the others I've backed. In a low stakes Trixie

Not sure I'd had a winner at Fairyhouse for a while mind. And I won't be expecting I in the Irish national
 
Had a pop on 2 in the Irish National for a bit of fun.....

Better Days Ahead who goes into the race fresh off just 2 runs this season and Monbeg Genius who came back to form at the Fez and jonjo has won the race a couple of times

Anyone else done anything?
Having run my trends, Better Times Ahead looks a perfect fit. Have taken the slightly lower 20/1 to avail of 6 places with 365.

My wife picked Freewheelin Dylan a few years ago (win only too, handing her the cash was agony) so I'll let you know what she picks
 
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Had a pop on 2 in the Irish National for a bit of fun.....

Better Days Ahead who goes into the race fresh off just 2 runs this season and Monbeg Genius who came back to form at the Fez and jonjo has won the race a couple of times

Anyone else done anything?

….Goraibthingy 18-1 with Cobden on board and Weveallbeencaught 44-1, both e/w. Don’t remember ever backing the winner of this race, even back in my football days when we’d regularly sneak a little trip to Isle of Man for Easter Monday.
 
Had to have a go on the Jonjo Irish/English GN Double.

Monbeg Genius/Johnnywho

322/1 Each Way
 
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Did Gordie have anything to say after Charismatic Kids win today anyone know?
 
Did Gordie have anything to say after Charismatic Kids win today anyone know?
‘’He’s a very good horse. We brought him to Cheltenham and didn’t run him because of the ground. We think he’s a proper horse but you have to go and do it on the track,” said Elliott.

“We rode him wrong the first day, we dropped him in, but we let him stride on today.

“He’s massive. Bringing him over (to Cheltenham) and not running him was probably the best thing I ever done.

“He’s a great jumper, a nice horse. I’d imagine that’ll be him for the year and he’ll be a lovely hurdler next year.”
 
Cheers @DenmanSacre. Got this years Cheltenham monies back with a bit of interest today. 50/1 365 Turners at the mo.
All the way into 16/1 with 365

Still 50s with BetVictor but as I've not got an account have taken the 33/1 with Skybet.

Can't describe how impressed I was with that performance
 
All the way into 16/1 with 365

Still 50s with BetVictor but as I've not got an account have taken the 33/1 with Skybet.

Can't describe how impressed I was with that performance

….also 50-1 Lads.
 
At what point does Gordon Elliott winning a novice hurdle need to be seriously priced into these markets

No winner of the Supreme since Labaik in '17
No winner of the Turners since '20 with Envoi
Won the Bartlett with Stellar Story in '24 but before that was a long time
No winner of the Triumph since 2018 with Farclas

I know each horse is its own entity - but he's been unable to produce the goods when it comes to the Festival grade 1s taking into account the stock he gets
 
I think anyone backing multiple runners in novice hurdles at this point needs their head examined.

In the vast majority of people's diaries/portfolios whatever you want to call them, the number one source of pre festival losses in 90% of them will be arsing around in novice hurdles starting from a year out. And after all that, the four winners of them this year were something like 5/2, 11/1, 50/1 and 20/1 on the day. And 50/1 if you add the triumph in too.

First of all, they have to be good enough, and the vast majority that you bet on won't be, no matter how visually impressive they look when beating trees. And you probably won't find out if theyre good enough until next February when they run in a proper race for the first time, or maybe the festival itself. And on top of that, if you get lucky and they are good enough, they then have to run in the right race, which once again could be any of the three no matter how they look visually while beating trees.

I'd say whatever your "one point" stake is when betting on cheltenham, or whatever return you aim for on a cheltenham horse, youd be best off halving that figure when betting on novice hurdles until after Xmas at least, when if your lucky the races might actually start getting a bit competitive around the time of the lawlors at naas. That way your inevitable losses will be only half what they usually are, and a very good chance you won't have missed out on anything.

The majority of my own bets including novice hurdle horses before Xmas will be just small amounts on the exchange if I see anything interesting at huge prices, along with probably some miniscule stake multiples including a few of them.
 
At what point does Gordon Elliott winning a novice hurdle need to be seriously priced into these markets

No winner of the Supreme since Labaik in '17
No winner of the Turners since '20 with Envoi
Won the Bartlett with Stellar Story in '24 but before that was a long time
No winner of the Triumph since 2018 with Farclas

I know each horse is its own entity - but he's been unable to produce the goods when it comes to the Festival grade 1s taking into account the stock he gets
Agree. He's had 2 festival winners (same horse) from nearly 100 runners at last two festivals. Any other trainer would be absolutely slated.