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Craigy14 said:
I was just coming on to say the same! He’s on third and fourth string in those first 2 races!

Hes by miles WPM’s second best jockey it’s not even close!
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Juveniles and Novices hard to tell what the pecking order is - maybe Danny is on the 2nd string and the bookies have it wrong!

Dancing City was 4th string according to the bookies in the Lacey last year and look how that turned out....beware the Joystick!
 
chunker86 said:
Juveniles and Novices hard to tell what the pecking order is - maybe Danny is on the 2nd string and the bookies have it wrong!

Dancing City was 4th string according to the bookies in the Lacey last year and look how that turned out....beware the Joystick!
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I get that but Danny is a far superior jockey to me than Patrick so given that, if the horses aren’t too far apart I’d have Danny beating him 9 out of 10 times imo.

On jockey picks though and form going into the race he’s on the fourth string, arguably 5th string given the regard Jasmin is viewed. Same with the juvenile on form he’s on third string. We can only go on the form so far and that’s what it tells us imo.

Edit - I’m not saying he can’t win but on form etc he’s not on the second string regardless of what Dancing City was last year as he clearly wasn’t second string given the odds etc. What has he done to be deemed 5th string in a Grade 1 he won last year.
 
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Craigy14 said:
I get that but Danny is a far superior jockey to me than Patrick so given that, if the horses aren’t too far apart I’d have Danny beating him 9 out of 10 times imo.

On jockey picks though and form going into the race he’s on the fourth string, arguably 5th string given the regard Jasmin is viewed. Same with the juvenile on form he’s on third string. We can only go on the form so far and that’s what it tells us imo.

Edit - I’m not saying he can’t win but on form etc he’s not on the second string regardless of what Dancing City was last year as he clearly wasn’t second string given the odds etc. What has he done to be deemed 5th string in a Grade 1 he won last year.
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He's on the 4th string based on form, but maybe on home work or potential he's on the 2nd string - maybe the different jockeys rank them differently - we don't know.

You'd need some further insight into how the yard picks jockeys to know the thinking behind it.

Townend obviously gets first pick - beyond that are they allocated or do they ask? Patrick can only ride so many per season, Willie always says it's a good indicator when he chooses to burn one of his pro rides. Others maybe it's down to weight, maybe it's down to style, maybe it's down to owners preference/request, agents getting involved, maybe Danny has seen something in Joystick or Sony Bill that has made him go and ask for those rides.
 
I presume that Sean O’Keefe simply gets to keep the ride on Lady Vega Allen. From what we could see at Christmas, he gave her a lovely education early before getting her involved slowly. Willie probably thinks they get on well.
 
Sean O'Keefe is a good jockey and don't see it as a negative even though Danny does have a great record at DRF.

Sean rides the new course at cheltenham on the friday unbelievably.
Back him blindly in the 3 hurdle races ew and you will be up money.

His best results in Triumph, county and albertt bartlett.

2024
Spread boss ted 4th at 40/1

2023
Gust of wind 4th 22/1
Sandor Clegane 3rd 28/1

2022
The Nice Guy 1st 18/1
 
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Exar Essay said:
I presume that Sean O’Keefe simply gets to keep the ride on Lady Vega Allen. From what we could see at Christmas, he gave her a lovely education early before getting her involved slowly. Willie probably thinks they get on well.
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He's on the 7/1 shot while Danny is on a 50/1 shot in the Nathaniel Lacy as well. Think he's just got the preference like.

Edit: You may not be talking about Danny Mullins at all here to be fair. I've just woken up and read these posts in the wrong order :welcoming:
 
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Can anyone see their bets on William Hill?

Mine aren't showing up :cower:
 
luisgarciaisgod said:
Sad news that John Hales has passed away, owned some great horses.

Would be fitting if Kalif De Berlais won the Sicily Isles in his honour.
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Sad news indeed, though I'd prefer Regent's Stroll winning the Supreme in his honour instead :devilish:
 
luisgarciaisgod said:
Sad news that John Hales has passed away, owned some great horses.

Would be fitting if Kalif De Berlais won the Sicily Isles in his honour.
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…lovely, emotional tribute then from Harry Skelton on ATR.
 
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