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BagOfHammers said:
Patrick Mullins in the latest paddy power podcast states he thinks Nick Rockett is ‘probably not a grade 1 horse’ about 6 minutes from the end if you want to listen/watch (believe it’s on YouTube too). Just mentioning as I know a few of us are interested in him for the BANC. Of all those in media I will say I find Patrick’s insights to willies horses most often wide of the mark so may not mean a whole pile just thought I’d highlight
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Reading between the lines, and possibly incorrectly, I wonder if that's Patrick's first play in an attempt to get NR as his ride in the NHC? Seems similar to GDM comments.
 
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Exar Essay said:
Reading between the lines, and possibly incorrectly, I wonder if that's Patrick's first play in an attempt to get his as his ride in the NHC? Seems similar to GDM comments.
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My thoughts as well, 25/1 with Unibet, 8/1(lol) any race with Slybet
 
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OverTheLast said:
Where are these?
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Think he just means the naming on their antepost race markets has been corrected.

If anyone's wondering, they retrospectively changed the naming error on bets that were placed as well. I tried it to see what would happen ​​​and it was incorrectly titled in the 'my bets' section for a bit but they've amended it without making any contact. :tan:
 
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Black Dog said:
My thoughts as well, 25/1 with Unibet, 8/1(lol) any race with Slybet
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To be fair, it was a left field question from Frank Hickey in respect of form tying in with one of his fancies for a race at Galway, so not an obvious play from Patrick. But he does say he's a solid Grade 2 horse ...
 
JackieMoon33 said:
Does he mention much else from the yard? Is it worth a listen?
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Only mentions those heading to Galway really. It’s a Galway & Goodwood preview so depends if that’s of interest to you. The Nick Rockett question was snuck in really
 
BagOfHammers said:
Only mentions those heading to Galway really. It’s a Galway & Goodwood preview so depends if that’s of interest to you. The Nick Rockett question was snuck in really
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Gotcha. Will give is a pass then.
 
Exar Essay said:
To be fair, it was a left field question from Frank Hickey in respect of form tying in with one of his fancies for a race at Galway, so not an obvious play from Patrick. But he does say he's a solid Grade 2 horse ...
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Just watched the whole thing through

Frank Hickey asked Patrick Mullins what he thought of Nick Rockett, as his form tied into a horse he fancies as ‘well in’ for Day 6 at Galway (THECOMPANYSERGEANT, 2.30pm Galway Saturday week 2M6F Listed Euro 65,000 HcapH).

Patrick probably caught on the hop with that question, then said

He had won some Graded races in the spring, and do I think he’s a Grade 1 horse? - probably not. But he’s a solid Grade 2 horse.

I wouldn’t get too bothered about the comment.

He has only ran in 2 hurdles (in a month), and won that Grade 2 by 15 lengths on his 2nd start.

If anyone looks at the Willie Mullins Grade 1 Novice Hurdlers last year, there were plenty.

Facile Vega - TWO Grade 1 wins (2 Miles)
Il Etait Temps - ONE Grade 1 win (2 Miles)
Champ Kiely - ONE Grade 1 win (2M4F)
Impaire Et Passe - TWO Grade 1 wins (2M4F and 2M5F)
Gaelic Warrior - ONE Grade 1 win (3M)
Ashroe Diamond - ONE Grade 1 win (2M4F)

Throw in the Juvenile Hurdlers you have these Grade 1 4yo Hurdles winners

Gala Marceau - TWO Grade 1 wins (2M and 2M4F)
Lossiemouth - TWO Grade 1 wins (2M)
Zenta - ONE Grade 1 win (2M)

So overall the stable won 13 Grade 1 Novice and Juvenile Hurdles with 9 individual horses.

The way I see it, there’s 9 Grade 1 hurdlers there, and to be comparable as a Hurdler, Nick Rockett would’ve needed more runs, and a crack at a Grade 1.

If you look at his RPR of 148 on his 2nd hurdles start, that shows he’s a quality horse, and better after just two hurdles than many of the recent BANC winners were.

Question: after two hurdles runs what RPR did the last 10 BANC winners have

The Real Whacker 138
LHomme Presse 129
Monkfish 145
Champ 138
Topofthegame 139
Presenting Percy 114
Might Bite 139
Blacklion 142
Don Poli 129
O’Faolains Boy 136

So if we are profiling staying Novice Chasers after their novice hurdle season, then maybe connections of most of the above at the end of the season (not after two runs) would’ve been happy described as
“probably not Grade 1, but solid Group 2” :biggrin-new:

Incidentally the last 7 of them were, a
t the end of the season before they won the BANC

* The Real Whacker - Grade 2 NovH runner-up

* L’Homme Presse - No Graded NovH runs

* Monkfish - Won Grade 1 NovH on his 3rd start

* Champ - Grade 1 NovH winner

* Topofthegame - Coral Cup 2nd, no Grade NovH places

* Presenting Percy - Won Pertemps Final off 146, No Graded NovH wins

* Might Bite - No Graded NovH placed

So to be completely fair you don’t have to be proven as a Grade 1 horse, before you start chasing to Win the BANC.

Even though we may prefer to back proven top class horses, stepping into novice chases.
 
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Saxon Warrior said:
Just watched the whole thing through

Frank Hickey asked Patrick Mullins what he thought of Nick Rockett, as his form tied into a horse he fancies as ‘well in’ for Day 6 at Galway (THECOMPANYSERGEANT, 2.30pm Galway Saturday week 2M6F Listed Euro 65,000 HcapH).

Patrick probably caught on the hop with that question, then said

He had won some Graded races in the spring, and do I think he’s a Grade 1 horse? - probably not. But he’s a solid Grade 2 horse.

I wouldn’t get too bothered about the comment.

He has only ran in 2 hurdles (in a month), and won that Grade 2 by 15 lengths on his 2nd start.

If anyone looks at the Willie Mullins Grade 1 Novice Hurdlers last year, their were plenty.

Facile Vega - TWO Grade 1 wins (2 Miles)
Il Etait Temps - ONE Grade 1 win (2 Miles)
Champ Kiely - ONE Grade 1 win (2M4F)
Impaire Et Passe - TWO Grade 1 wins (2M4F and 2M5F)
Gaelic Warrior - ONE Grade 1 win (3M)
Ashroe Diamond - ONE Grade 1 win (2M4F)

Throw in the Juvenile Hurdlers you have these Grade 1 4yo Hurdles winners

Gala Marceau - TWO Grade 1 wins (2M and 2M4F)
Lossiemouth - TWO Grade 1 wins (2M)
Zenta - ONE Grade 1 win (2M)

So overall the stable won 13 Grade 1 Novice and Juvenile Hurdles with 9 individual horses.

The way I see it, there’s 9 Grade 1 hurdlers there, and to be comparable as a Hurdler, Nick Rockett would’ve needed more runs, and a crack at a Grade 1.

If you look at his RPR of 148 on his 2nd hurdles start, that shows he’s a quality horse, and better after just two hurdles than many of the recent BANC winners were.

Question: after two hurdles runs what RPR did the last 10 BANC winners have

The Real Whacker 138
LHomme Presse 129
Monkfish 145
Champ 138
Topofthegame 139
Presenting Percy 114
Might Bite 139
Blacklion 142
Don Poli 129
O’Faolains Boy 136

So if we are profiling staying Novice Chasers after their novice hurdle season, then maybe connections of most of the above at the end of the season (not after two runs) would’ve been happy described as
“probably not Grade 1, but solid Group 2” :biggrin-new:

Incidentally the last 7 of them were, at the end of the season before they won the BANC

* The Real Whacker - Grade 2 NovH runner-up

* L’Homme Presse - No Graded NovH runs

* Monkfish - Won Grade 1 NovH on his 3rd start

* Champ - Grade 1 NovH winner

* Topofthegame - Coral Cup 2nd, no Grade NovH places

* Presenting Percy - Won Pertemps Dinal off 146, No Graded NovH wins

* Might Bite - No Graded NovH placed

So to be completely fair you don’t have to be proven as a Grade 1 horse, before you start chasing to Win the BANC.

Even though we may prefer to back proven top class horses, stepping into novice chases.
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I had a bunch of similar stats for my pending write up for Walking On Air for the BANC. Hurdle rating means absolute squat when trying to find the winner.
 
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Must say I use to knock the LTR boys but the new strategy of interviews with trainers and owners is brilliant. Interview today with McNeill confirming 320k P2P Quebecois in training with PN
 
Just looking at Oddschecker , see the B.A.N.C. has a new fav. - Corbetts cross .
Mentioned on a youtube ??. Trainer comments ??.
 
Mystical Power - Galileo / Annie Power running tomorrow in a maiden Hurdle. Breeding suggests it'll be a machine but breeding doesn't Win races. I'm going to have a pop at the Supreme at 25/1 and hope it's something special.

Also requested win today and Supreme price, should be available tomorrow a.m.
 
JamieSensible said:
Mystical Power - Galileo / Annie Power running tomorrow in a maiden Hurdle. Breeding suggests it'll be a machine but breeding doesn't Win races. I'm going to have a pop at the Supreme at 25/1 and hope it's something special.

Also requested win today and Supreme price, should be available tomorrow a.m.
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I had a go at 33/1 before his bumper debut, he had alot
of hype surrounding his debut id like to think hell be top class
 
Others will able to 'confirm' or put me right but his bumper RPR is a bit on the low side isn't it if you believe in such things (seems to pay more often than not to do so)? Wrong time of year for Willie to set a Supreme candidate on it's way too?
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Others will able to 'confirm' or put me right but his bumper RPR is a bit on the low side isn't it if you believe in such things (seems to pay more often than not to do so)? Wrong time of year for Willie to set a Supreme candidate on it's way too?
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Yepp Willie doesn't run his best horses this time of year, as simple as that really:excitement:
 
Atlantic Viking said:
Others will able to 'confirm' or put me right but his bumper RPR is a bit on the low side isn't it if you believe in such things (seems to pay more often than not to do so)? Wrong time of year for Willie to set a Supreme candidate on it's way too?
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yeah his debut run was quite workmanlike, and i think the only horse that willie had out this time of year that turnt into a good one was champ kiely
 
JamieSensible said:
Mystical Power - Galileo / Annie Power running tomorrow in a maiden Hurdle. Breeding suggests it'll be a machine but breeding doesn't Win races. I'm going to have a pop at the Supreme at 25/1 and hope it's something special.

Also requested win today and Supreme price, should be available tomorrow a.m.
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Breeding to die for
 
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