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Anyone looking for a bit of value in the coral gold cup today might consider potterman. He certainly has his negatives having twice attempted this race unseating on his first attempt when still in contention , pulling up last year on good to soft.
With the ground described as good at newbury today it's worth looking for something with form on good ground, and potterman has plenty.
His form figures on ground officially described as good are
p,1,2,p,1,u,2,2,1,2,13,1,1,3,1,1,2,5,4,1,1,1
10 wins from 22 starts, with sky paying 5 places today, out of 22 runs on good he finished in the first 5 18 times.
He's available out there @66/1 only a 1lb higher than last year when he was 25/1 on good to soft.
I think he's a good place prospect
 
Only get to see racing tv coverage properly because of work but wtf is going on with the coverage! Long periods of silence and no build up to the race until moments before the off! Bizarre!
 
Liverpoolchamp said:
Only get to see racing tv coverage properly because of work but wtf is going on with the coverage! Long periods of silence and no build up to the race until moments before the off! Bizarre!
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I think you've got the individual race track channel on as there's none stop coverage on the main channel
 
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Any Replays available for the Jet powered race at Newbury friday . Racing t.v. have all the races except that one .??.:confused:.
 
With American Mike beaten today, it made me reflect that the Champion Bumper form isn’t working out to be that great. Aside from American Mike’s easy maiden, only Authorised Speed has since come out and won:

2nd - American Mike - won maiden but beaten over hurdles in a novice G3
3rd - James’s Gate - beaten in an awful run at the Punchestown bumper - yet to be seen since.
4th - Seabank Bistro - beaten in maiden hurdle when 4/6 fav
5th - Authorised Speed - easy winner on hurdling debut at Lingfield, but what was he up against?
6th - Poetic Music - beaten 12L on mares hurdle debut behind Luccia
7th - Our Jester - yet to run in hurdle races after a summer running indifferently on the flat
8th - Music Drive - two poor/indifferent runs at Cheltenham, albeit finishing 7L behind Hermes Allen last time out.

Does make me begin to wonder about Facile Vega…
 
Mighty said:
With American Mike beaten today, it made me reflect that the Champion Bumper form isn’t working out to be that great. Aside from American Mike’s easy maiden, only Authorised Speed has since come out and won:

2nd - American Mike - won maiden but beaten over hurdles in a novice G3
3rd - James’s Gate - beaten in an awful run at the Punchestown bumper - yet to be seen since.
4th - Seabank Bistro - beaten in maiden hurdle when 4/6 fav
5th - Authorised Speed - easy winner on hurdling debut at Lingfield, but what was he up against?
6th - Poetic Music - beaten 12L on mares hurdle debut behind Luccia
7th - Our Jester - yet to run in hurdle races after a summer running indifferently on the flat
8th - Music Drive - two poor/indifferent runs at Cheltenham, albeit finishing 7L behind Hermes Allen last time out.

Does make me begin to wonder about Facile Vega…
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He wouldnt't be the first horse to look like Pegasus in bumpers but not progress over hurdles. Hope thats not the case & doubt it will be, but time will tell.
 
Mighty said:
With American Mike beaten today, it made me reflect that the Champion Bumper form isn’t working out to be that great. Aside from American Mike’s easy maiden, only Authorised Speed has since come out and won:

2nd - American Mike - won maiden but beaten over hurdles in a novice G3
3rd - James’s Gate - beaten in an awful run at the Punchestown bumper - yet to be seen since.
4th - Seabank Bistro - beaten in maiden hurdle when 4/6 fav
5th - Authorised Speed - easy winner on hurdling debut at Lingfield, but what was he up against?
6th - Poetic Music - beaten 12L on mares hurdle debut behind Luccia
7th - Our Jester - yet to run in hurdle races after a summer running indifferently on the flat
8th - Music Drive - two poor/indifferent runs at Cheltenham, albeit finishing 7L behind Hermes Allen last time out.

Does make me begin to wonder about Facile Vega…
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Fair point, Cheltenham race form behind is not working out too well. Comparing bumper form to hurdle form where there is a lot more variables at play it’s not definite science.

When turning out at Punchestown at the end of the season FV was not 100% and he improved again on that previous result beating AM by 15+ lengths & Seabank Bistro by 67+ lengths.. so they’re poor performances over hurdles are not too much of concern regarding FV.

Good observation made tho regarding the form.
 
Mighty said:
With American Mike beaten today, it made me reflect that the Champion Bumper form isn’t working out to be that great. Aside from American Mike’s easy maiden, only Authorised Speed has since come out and won:

2nd - American Mike - won maiden but beaten over hurdles in a novice G3
3rd - James’s Gate - beaten in an awful run at the Punchestown bumper - yet to be seen since.
4th - Seabank Bistro - beaten in maiden hurdle when 4/6 fav
5th - Authorised Speed - easy winner on hurdling debut at Lingfield, but what was he up against?
6th - Poetic Music - beaten 12L on mares hurdle debut behind Luccia
7th - Our Jester - yet to run in hurdle races after a summer running indifferently on the flat
8th - Music Drive - two poor/indifferent runs at Cheltenham, albeit finishing 7L behind Hermes Allen last time out.

Does make me begin to wonder about Facile Vega…
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For a long, long time the Champion Bumper winners kept getting over bet and beaten at Cheltenham.... a few recent years have changed the perception, and you'll struggle to get people playing down Facile Vega before a run... so it's an interesting angle.

Way too short relative to the same markets year on year, but people won't care and plenty on here have bigger prices which will skew the view too.
 
Mighty said:
With American Mike beaten today, it made me reflect that the Champion Bumper form isn’t working out to be that great. Aside from American Mike’s easy maiden, only Authorised Speed has since come out and won:

2nd - American Mike - won maiden but beaten over hurdles in a novice G3
3rd - James’s Gate - beaten in an awful run at the Punchestown bumper - yet to be seen since.
4th - Seabank Bistro - beaten in maiden hurdle when 4/6 fav
5th - Authorised Speed - easy winner on hurdling debut at Lingfield, but what was he up against?
6th - Poetic Music - beaten 12L on mares hurdle debut behind Luccia
7th - Our Jester - yet to run in hurdle races after a summer running indifferently on the flat
8th - Music Drive - two poor/indifferent runs at Cheltenham, albeit finishing 7L behind Hermes Allen last time out.

Does make me begin to wonder about Facile Vega…
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I'd say this is inaccurate, music drive won a maiden hurdle, poetic music also won a maiden hurdle.
music drive has already had 3 hurdle runs, 2 at cheltenham, 1 more he gets a handicap mark with 2 runs at cheltenham.
American mike can be forgiven.
poetic music was beaten by potentially the next honeysuckle.
authorised speed beat scene one 22 lengths. last season gelino bello beat scene one by 15 lengths, gelino bello went on to grade 1 glory last season. and i believe autthorised speed will too.

just another take on it.
 
God knows where the Arkle thread is so I'll just say this here. I am looking forward to seeing Dysart Dynamo break cover on Thursday in the beginners chase at Thurles. Hopefully he hoses up and makes my stupidly early (March) antepost 2023 arkle bet looks like a genius move! :eagerness:
 
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