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1. Preseason stable tours
2. Cheltenham preview nights

Two occasions that make punters place bets they would never have considered previously.
 
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JackieMoon33 said:
1. Preseason stable tours
2. Cheltenham preview nights

Two occasions that make punters place bets they would never have considered previously.
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Maybe I'm getting cynical in my old age but these days preview nights give me the feeling of "huh, maybe no one will win this race"
 
https://www.racingpost.com/results/1...1-02-07/776300

Grade 1 novice hurdle at the DRF

1st Appreciate It 1/3
2nd Ballyadam 10/1
3rd Blue Lord 14/1
4th Hook Up 50/1
5th Irascible 12/1
6th Galopin Des Champs 100/1




Now, GDC is a short priced fav for the Gold Cup, Appreciate It is 5/1 for the Turners.



What a mad sport.
 
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Never been banned, for abuse or anything else, that's a fact I deserve the right to reply on given it's not been corrected. Also there's a national sea life centre in Birmingham which was news to me too. While I'm here, congratulations to Grimsby. Back to the racing Clive.
 
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Silverbirch said:
Exactly this.

Take everyone's words with a big pinch of salt. It's usually what they don't say that can be more revealing.
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Especially with the handicaps

Whenever a trainer like Gordon is giving you a horse for a handicap you always know in your heart of hearts he's got another one for the same race that he likes more and doesn't want to ruin the price for the yard and connections
 
Kevloaf said:
I'm sure we all want to just talk about the racing now... we're 2 weeks away from it being half-way over.....!



I respectfully ask all involved, to move on.... and let's focus on the reason we're here :love_heart:
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Are you saying this thread cannot now be used for anything else?
Genuine question.
 
Quevega said:
Initially it was.
The trusted members implied this in their original comments, and I fully understood why they did (right or wrong)
It then morphed into a confidentiality thing. And I understand why the forum moderators would need to act on this also.

Unfortunately though, IMO we may have been a little hasty/harsh and maybe a warning around the whole "information embargo" thing would have sufficed in this specific instance.
Previous behaviour ! I'm not privy too, but trust the man at the helm to have considered any feedback given to him carefully.
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Quevega, in the very first line of my post I stated that information itself may well be correct. It didn't morph anything into a confidentiality thing. I implicitly stated said why it was a problem. Essentially the person named as the source of the information was untrue, and even if it were true (it wasn't), the BHA, if they picked it up would certainly have followed up. That would have created a problem for the person/persons named and potentially JP too, as he was claimed to be the actual source. That then would have a knock on to Old Vic and Kev, who's site it was published on.

When picking up on this I also pointed out that the publisher of these posts has previous on here under multiple usernames. And the basis of all of those 'characters' was to troll around the place. I also had a series of unsavoury DM's from him last year, including threats, and that was the point I decided to withdraw from here. You could argue I had a bias. That's probably correct, but that facts were the facts, and this place is pretty high profile at this time of the year.

Atlantic Viking, we are all able to have our opinions. You're entitled to yours. But you post in very bold letters is very badly missing the point.

Brital. He was making claims that the information had come form a source it hadn't. As Saxon Warrior stated multiple times the information was embargoed. Said source would have been investigated by the BHA, so would the owners of Fat Jockey, which is where the information and the claim of the source was being published. Do you not see why that's a problem?
 
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Spectre said:
Quevega, in the very first line of my post I stated that information itself may well be correct. It didn't morph anything into a confidentiality thing. I implicitly stated said why it was a problem. Essentially the person named as the source of the information was untrue, and even if it were true (it wasn't), the BHA, if they picked it up would certainly have followed up. That would have created a problem for the person/persons named and potentially JP too, as he was claimed to be the actual source. That then would have a knock on to Old Vic and Kev, who's site it was published on.

When picking up on this I also pointed out that the publisher of these posts has previous on here under multiple usernames. And the basis of all of those 'characters' was to troll around the place. I also had a series of unsavoury DM's from him last year, including threats, and that was the point I decided to withdraw from here. You could argue I had a bias. That's probably correct, but that facts were the facts, and this place is pretty high profile at this time of the year.

Atlantic Viking, we are all able to have our opinions. You're entitled to yours. But you post in very bold letters is very badly missing the point.

Brital. He was making claims that the information had come form a source it hadn't. As Saxon Warrior stated multiple times the information was embargoed. Said source would have been investigated by the BHA, so would the owners of Fat Jockey, which is where the information and the claim of the source was being published. Do you not see why that's a problem?
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Yeah, I incorrectly bracketed the trusted members together and acknowledge you may not have implied the same.:encouragement:

But that is how it started, and the rest of what you say I'm on board with, as my comments suggest.

I think some would find it frustrating though, that now the figures have been proven correct, we have this bizarre aspect to the whole thing, as to where they originated from ? Who the source was ? and how you know for certain that he's lying ?

I'm as aware of most on here about the trolls, and he may or may not be the same person as the characters mentioned. My educated guess is that there is more than one.
He's definitely Big Fish though as I called him out immediately the day he joined as Moby.
Just like I did with Bollinger (previously EA)

Most of the time they are harmless, but I've not been abused by any, apart from "german shepherd" and I enjoyed that.

So like I said previously, I respect that the forum is not privy to everything that has gone on and trust Kev and Co to do the right thing.

PS - I love the line

"even if it were true (it wasn't)" :highly_amused::applause:
 
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Just seen Hollow games declared for the weekend . Unusual Arkle Prep. ?? .
Or getting the extra run in for the plate ??.
 
BigChaang said:
Just seen Hollow games declared for the weekend . Unusual Arkle Prep. ?? .
Or getting the extra run in for the plate ??.
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Not eligible for handicap chase's as I believe he had to have had his three runs before now.
 
Quevega said:
Not eligible for handicap chase's as I believe he had to have had his three runs before now.
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Yep, last Sunday was the last day I think someone said.
 
Looking for some each way *value* bets to take on the favs I don’t like. Hit me up with some suggestions;

Facile Vega - Supreme
Honeysuckle - Mares
Lossiemouth - Triumph
Galopin Des Champs - Gold Cup


* I’d say 12/1+ is my kind of value ;) but 8s will suffice
 
gwaaan said:
Looking for some each way *value* bets to take on the favs I don’t like. Hit me up with some suggestions;

Facile Vega - Supreme
Honeysuckle - Mares
Lossiemouth - Triumph
Galopin Des Champs - Gold Cup


* I’d say 12/1+ is my kind of value ;) but 8s will suffice
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:gorilla:
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​​​​​​Supreme - Diverge 14s ew (not beat much but looked good)
Mares - echos in rain 7s. Ew (soz, improver this season)
Triumph - Zenta 25s ew (Willies 4th string but interesting, will need to jump better)
Gold cup - Conflated 12s. Ew (Gords no 1 for the race)

all of these are looking for a place IMO, not sure how much they will be a treat to the faves tho

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gwaaan said:
Looking for some each way *value* bets to take on the favs I don’t like. Hit me up with some suggestions;

Facile Vega - Supreme
Honeysuckle - Mares
Lossiemouth - Triumph
Galopin Des Champs - Gold Cup


* I’d say 12/1+ is my kind of value ;) but 8s will suffice
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Doctor Bravo in the supreme, not a bad effort behind Fil Dor and Sharjah albeit getting a few pounds. Probably would have finished closer if he didn't make the mistake. Fil Dor gives you a line on Il Etait Temps too if you take into account they met 3 times last season. 20/1 EW isn't the worst bet in the world when you consider IET is 9/2
 
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